December 2010 Initial Reactions

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby akikaze » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:13 pm

NYCcops wrote:Just throwing this out there: I had an experimental LR in section 4 today. I have this somewhat confirmed with other test takers that took the test in NYC today in person. It seems as if this is accurate.

Anybody else get experimental LR in section 4 right after the break and say "What the f___"


How did you know it was experimental? If you have 3 LR's you don't know which is experimental until you come online =)

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby fosterp » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:14 pm

Anyone know if the experimental or real LR had a point at issue question towards the end involving ancient and contemporary philosophy? I usually have some idea to narrow down questions on LR but this is the first time I had ever seen a question that I had absolutely no clue what could possibly be the answer. Heres hoping its the exp...

Oh, and anyone know how sensitive their computers are to bubbling? I was bubbling in an answer when time was called and I got about 2/3 of the bubble filled and didn't want to risk a misconduct so I left it.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby NYCcops » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:16 pm

I am just saying that one of my LR sections, which in this case was section 4 had tons of very odd questions in it. They were clearly experimental. I have taken enough LSATs to know.

But I am currently doubting myself big time because the experimental just can't be section 4.

So you are right.

And to whoever said the thing about breaking the law.. If you were referring to my previous post, notice how I was completely vague. That is totally cool to do. I did not say anything specific right?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby robotclubmember » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:16 pm

testmachine45 wrote:I seriously believe in a -15 curve. At least 15 but it could go to 17. This was the hardest LSAT I have ever taken.


The only reason some people are speculating this is because it appears like a popular idea. But following the entire thread, you see it's just the same guy saying this over and over again. No way a -17 curve. Not even a -15. Just not happening. Even -14 is unlikely. It just wasn't that hard. It had one very hard section (LG), the rest was easy points.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby bartleby » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:17 pm

fosterp wrote:Anyone know if the experimental or real LR had a point at issue question towards the end involving ancient and contemporary philosophy? I usually have some idea to narrow down questions on LR but this is the first time I had ever seen a question that I had absolutely no clue what could possibly be the answer. Heres hoping its the exp...

Oh, and anyone know how sensitive their computers are to bubbling? I was bubbling in an answer when time was called and I got about 2/3 of the bubble filled and didn't want to risk a misconduct so I left it.


They have tens of thousands of suckers ponying up 130 dollars four times a year. Their computers are sensitive as balls.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Pricer » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:18 pm

In October 92, there were 102 questions with a -11 curve. Here is the raw score conversion chart that includes that test. Just a reference in case anyone wants to guess at their score.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby eads » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:20 pm

Most possibly, the curve will be -13 (given 102 Qs in total)...so similar to June and October...

robotclubmember wrote:
testmachine45 wrote:I seriously believe in a -15 curve. At least 15 but it could go to 17. This was the hardest LSAT I have ever taken.


The only reason some people are speculating this is because it appears like a popular idea. But following the entire thread, you see it's just the same guy saying this over and over again. No way a -17 curve. Not even a -15. Just not happening. Even -14 is unlikely. It just wasn't that hard. It had one very hard section (LG), the rest was easy points.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby 12262010 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:20 pm

chup wrote:For the last time, soliciting answers/inferences etc. via PM is a no-no. Enjoy your 24-hour vacation.

The next one will be significantly longer.


oh hai :wink:

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby therumpshaker » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:20 pm

I dont know if anyone has said this yet, but I had 3 LR sections and all 3 were 26Q. Def. 102.

Don't you know? Stained glass is the new mauve dinosaur.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby fosterp » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:23 pm

EDIT: Moderator says "no."

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby mdr198 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:23 pm

LR, RC, RC, LR, LG

Anyone else have this structure? It's all become so muddled I can't seem to figure out which one of the RC's was exp.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby bartleby » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:23 pm

therumpshaker wrote:I dont know if anyone has said this yet, but I had 3 LR sections and all 3 were 26Q. Def. 102.

Don't you know? Stained glass is the new mauve dinosaur.


Nah, stained glass is still no dinosaur.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Cpwilson » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:26 pm

Well after today's choke job on the logic games looks like I'm not going to law school after all.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby lisavj » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:27 pm

Pricer wrote:In October 92, there were 102 questions with a -11 curve. Here is the raw score conversion chart that includes that test. Just a reference in case anyone wants to guess at their score.

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Thanks for this! With my guesses at "the worst it could have gone" I'll still get either the same score...or one below. whew.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Pricer » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:29 pm

lisavj wrote:
Pricer wrote:In October 92, there were 102 questions with a -11 curve. Here is the raw score conversion chart that includes that test. Just a reference in case anyone wants to guess at their score.

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Thanks for this! With my guesses at "the worst it could have gone" I'll still get either the same score...or one below. whew.


Yeah, UGA has a floor at 164, and my GPA is at their 50% line. I figure I went from -18 to -20, so I could still hit the 164. Much lower than my PTs, but it meets the requirement.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby lisavj » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:32 pm

Pricer wrote:
lisavj wrote:
Pricer wrote:In October 92, there were 102 questions with a -11 curve. Here is the raw score conversion chart that includes that test. Just a reference in case anyone wants to guess at their score.

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Thanks for this! With my guesses at "the worst it could have gone" I'll still get either the same score...or one below. whew.


Yeah, UGA has a floor at 164, and my GPA is at their 50% line. I figure I went from -18 to -20, so I could still hit the 164. Much lower than my PTs, but it meets the requirement.


'zactly! I'm hoping for Hastings...the 165 original was good enough to get me in there (I hope), so I wanted to see whether or not taking the test stress-free (ish) would change anything. Apparently not. sad. :(

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby gens1tb » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:32 pm

Cpwilson wrote:Well after today's choke job on the logic games looks like I'm not going to law school after all.


I'm still going

I can choke at TTT school and truly round out a meager existence

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Arturo » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:36 pm

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Cpwilson » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:36 pm

gens1tb wrote:
Cpwilson wrote:Well after today's choke job on the logic games looks like I'm not going to law school after all.


I'm still going

I can choke at TTT school and truly round out a meager existence


Well at least you have the balls to do it.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby therumpshaker » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:37 pm

EDIT BY MOD

To answer your question: No, not mod friendly.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby kkklick » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:38 pm

Stayed off the forums for 2 weeks, this was the hardest LSAT test I've ever personally seen. RC - LR1 - LG1 (fake) - LG2 - LR2


RC - Usually my worst section, Lichens and medical illustrations was easy for me, Jetter or whatever, time-consuming but not bad, tooth decay agriculture, passage B I didn't understand very well which made it tough, guessed on about 3.

LR1 - The harder of the 2 for sure, reminds me of the LR from PT 59 where the first 14 had 2 or 3 pretty tough ones mixed in there, Anywhere from -1 to -5.

LG fake - Easy, enough said.

LG real - 1st and 4th were a cakewalk. 2nd and 3rd, well, 2nd I made the huge deduction, and STILL found questions 9 through 12 to be very difficult, hate "could be" questions in LG.

LR2 - Missed a bubble ............................. Yea I hate myself but whatever, otherwise fairly easy, I could tell right away it was a nasty one. -3 or -5

Overall anywhere from 160 - 170 assuming the curve is what I think it will be ( - 13 ).

This was hard......
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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Ford Prefect » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:39 pm

Canadiana wrote:I think you guys are letting the games section colour your views about the test a bit too much. Yes they were tough ++ but there wasn't anything tricky about the other sections (I don't think I did too well on RC but I suck gorilla cock at that section on any test >.<). -12 to -13, generous but not unprecedented.

My test experience:
1.) LR :)
2.) RC :?
3.) LR :D (exp)
4.) LR :D :D
5.) LG :cry:
6.) WS :roll:

Though maybe LR just clicked for me on the day. In October I was way too amped up on the first section (LR) and scored like -9 so I'm 99% sure I did better on this test unless I did something stupid like miss a bubble.


This was the same set up I had today.

I felt really good about the test today. 2/3 LR sections I didn't have too many issues with, the one I did I don't think was a complete bomb, the RC only had a few that might have tripped me up, and I was able to get 2/4 of LG sections quickly. Another I figured out after setting it up wrong, and the last (colored glass) hit me with about 3 minutes left. I think I got all but one of that correct.

Anything better than my previous score will make this a banner day.

Also, pretty sure I had an LR section that was only 25 questions.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Farrbc6 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:42 pm

Does anyone know the individual order of the logic games in the real logic games section? The stained glass game was second and conferences third right? I'm panicking cause I read in an earlier post that stained glass was third... This is incorrect right?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby LawPlz » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:45 pm

Farrbc6 wrote:Does anyone know the individual order of the logic games in the real logic games section? The stained glass game was second and conferences third right? I'm panicking cause I read in an earlier post that stained glass was third... This is incorrect right?

From what I can remember, stain glass was 2nd and conference was 3rd?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby JusticeHopeful » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:45 pm

Any chance anyone knows what the 26th question was for the 2nd LR section? I'm worried because I remember 26 questions on the first one (the one about the children and stairs), 25 on the experimental one, but I was so sure that the 2nd real LR was 25 questions, and now I am scared silly that i misbubbled....




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