December 2010 Initial Reactions

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby deakon10 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:18 pm

I know this sounds evil but seeing all these posts about the LG makes me really feel better.. I've been kicking myself since the moment I ended the LG (section 5 for me) and did the writing part.

I have never had so little room to write or draw..the first game was soooo many words. I have been accustomed to -0 or -1 recently, and never run out of time. But I got time called and I still had 4 blank - had time to fill in one guess but didn't even fill in 3 bubbles. So that means a minimum of 3-4 wrong =( on LG... the most learnable and my best section.

also I got so accustomed to prep test paper material (nice thick white paper) that this cheap paper kept ripping and was hard for me to use with my sharp pencils..plus it sucked erasing on it. ugh.. fml. I guess june lsat + 2012 cycle cud be in play.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby CmonSD » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:20 pm

Moral_Midgetry wrote:
CmonSD wrote:
Cpwilson wrote:CmonSD just leave.


Ouch?


I think s/he is upset because us losers that have been on this thread since getting out of the test are tired of seeing the same questions that have been throughly answered be asked again, and again, and again.[/quote

Sorry my bad! I was just freaked out cuz I am terrible at every other section other than LG so if I screwed that up I have no hope. Good luck

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby joebloe » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:21 pm

deakon10 wrote:I know this sounds evil but seeing all these posts about the LG makes me really feel better.. I've been kicking myself since the moment I ended the LG (section 5 for me) and did the writing part.

I have never had so little room to write or draw..the first game was soooo many words. I have been accustomed to -0 or -1 recently, and never run out of time. But I got time called and I still had 4 blank - had time to fill in one guess but didn't even fill in 3 bubbles. So that means a minimum of 3-4 wrong =( on LG... the most learnable and my best section.

also I got so accustomed to prep test paper material (nice thick white paper) that this cheap paper kept ripping and was hard for me to use with my sharp pencils..plus it sucked erasing on it. ugh.. fml. I guess june lsat + 2012 cycle cud be in play.


Nah, I feel LOTS better after reading this thread too. It's always nice to know you've got comrades out there. I felt like ramming my car into a concrete pylon on the way home.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Cpwilson » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:22 pm

Cmon i was just messin with ya. I bombed the LG, so I hate hearing other people say they did great. But way to go, you are in the minority from what it sounds like.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby lisavj » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:24 pm

bartleby wrote:Yeah, can we clarify what exactly we can or cannot talk about? We're not talking about specific questions or answers. Can we not say Stars or Game 1 or Game 2 without going into detail?

I understand TLS liability but I'm now unclear about what we can or cannot talk about.



From our test stubs:

Under no circumstances may test content or any part of the test be removed, reproduced, and/or disclosed by any means (e.g., hard copy, verbally, electronically) to any person or entity. Legal action may be taken against anyone who removes test materials and/or reproduces test material in any way, or shares LSAT test content prior to LSAC’s disclosure of that test.

...and quoted from another LSAT discussion thread (posted about 1:17pm)

"The Law School Admission Council (LSAC) understands and sympathizes with the anxiety that the LSAT causes test takers and their strong desire to discuss with their peers the questions that they have just taken on the LSAT. However, LSAC prohibits such discussion, including the so-called “postmortem” discussion of test questions immediately after a particular test administration, because it has the potential to affect the fairness of the LSAT and the law school admission process. Certain LSATs are non-disclosed and their questions may be used again at a later administration of the test. And even in the case of disclosed tests there may be circumstances in which LSAC may need to administer a test form to some test takers somewhat later than to others. Discussion of test questions in a public forum like a website before the test is disclosed, even though its usefulness is limited by the memory and ability of the participants, makes information about that test widely available to anyone who has access to the web and may unfairly advantage test takers who see the discussion before they take the test. Since the number of admission slots in law schools is limited, such an unfair advantage could penalize those who took the test at an earlier time, including those very people engaging in the post-mortem discussion.

In an effort to ensure the fairness of the LSAT, LSAC requires test takers to sign a statement on the LSAT answer sheet saying that they agree not to “copy or retain examination questions or to transmit them to or discuss them with any other person in any form.” In addition, test takers sign a certification statement on the LSAT admission ticket agreeing that they have “no right to reproduce, recreate, distribute, or sell any of that test.” In this statement they also certify that they “understand that the Law School Admission Council reserves the right to pursue all suitable courses of action to prevent fraudulent or unauthorized use of its property and to prevent the compromise of secure test material.” Thus, test takers enter into a contract with LSAC that they will not discuss with others the test questions they have taken. In addition, LSAC’s “Instructions for the Day of the Test” state: “Legal action may be taken against anyone who removes test materials and/or reproduces test material in any way, or shares LSAT test content prior to LSAC’s disclosure of that test.”

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby JusticeHopeful » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:25 pm

The response to LG makes me happier - I left it doing poorly enough to feel like I had never seen an LG section before. The stain windows one made me mad, especially when I realized I was making it much harder than it was, and thus I never really made to the energy game because I was stumped. BOOO! :(

I had LR, RC, LR, LR, and LG - I know everyone keeps saying it was 102 questions (which I believe is right), so now I am worried because I remember only one section with 26 questions...the other one might have been, but I am scared I missed a question and misbubbled everything :oops: .... EEK!

Arg, long wait till those scores!

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby cardinals03 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:25 pm

Stained glass sucked - I was fairly comfortable with the rest. Hoping for RC (-3 or 4) LR (-7 or 9) and then that damn LG (-7 or 10) - I sure wish my exp LG had been for real - I nailed it :x

Hoping for 85 for a 167, but I am also fully expecting 79 - 81 for a 162 - 164. Guess it all depends on the curve. Do not know how to take the 102 questions.
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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby CmonSD » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:25 pm

Cpwilson wrote:Cmon i was just messin with ya. I bombed the LG, so I hate hearing other people say they did great. But way to go, you are in the minority from what it sounds like.


Oh :oops: Thank you though. It was my third and final attempt so it is what it is. Good luck to you!

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Moral_Midgetry » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:26 pm

Not that it matters to anyone but I'm officially signing off to shower, eat, and go out to get obliterated and hopefully go home with some strange. In the case strange comes into the picture I fear waking up tomorrow morning and seeing what it looks like after having my confidence shattered today by this test (Thank you, LSAC).

Anyway I want to wish you all good luck and that the score release wait be painless. I won't be back until the day scores are released. Again, good luck to you all and may the people who wrote Stained Glass and Conferences burn in hell after suffering a firey death.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Cpwilson » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:27 pm

Are there any schools that take your best score even if you take the test three times?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby cardinals03 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:28 pm

Moral_Midgetry wrote:and may the people who wrote Stained Glass and Conferences burn in hell after suffering a firey death.


and might I add that they get NO strange for the rest of their days

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby joebloe » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:28 pm

What I felt like LSAC did to me today:
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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Cpwilson » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:28 pm

Also what is the most likely date on which the scores will come out?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Moral_Midgetry » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:29 pm

cardinals03 wrote:
Moral_Midgetry wrote:and may the people who wrote Stained Glass and Conferences burn in hell after suffering a firey death.


and might I add that they get NO strange for the rest of their days


+1

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby lisavj » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:29 pm

On another note, I'll throw in my cards with the "Games sections make me wonder if I'm actually qualified to be in Law School" crowd.

I have a 165 from October. I think I may have still gotten that score even with my predicted -12 on the section-that-shall-not-be-named (because I liken it to Voldemort in it's ability to murder me, and because of the LSAC). I was doing so much better too.

I think I wouldn't be able to sit well with not knowing, so I prolly won't cancel. Just hoping this doesn't mean I wait a year to get into law school...but if it does I guess I could always work for a non profit for a bit and get some other experience. Bright side :D
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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby Moral_Midgetry » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:31 pm

lisavj wrote: Just hoping this doesn't mean I wait a year to get into law school...but if it does I guess I could always work for a non profit for a bit and get some other experience. Bright side :D



Fuck that shit I gots to get paiddddddddd.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby deakon10 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:35 pm

ali15 wrote:Hey, So was the RC with the Parliament and British Government expiremental? Also, by my calculation there was 102 questions is that correct?


Yeah I def had 102 questions. 26 for both LR (and exp LR), 26 for RC and 24 for LG

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby bee's vision » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:40 pm

deakon10 wrote:
ali15 wrote:Hey, So was the RC with the Parliament and British Government expiremental? Also, by my calculation there was 102 questions is that correct?


Yeah I def had 102 questions. 26 for both LR (and exp LR), 26 for RC and 24 for LG


I know RC had 27 questions

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby RefleX » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:41 pm

I think that I was so pissed off that I didn't nail LG (my golden child) that I didn't realize that RC might have not been that bad, nor the two LR sections. I really couldn't get a feel for how I did at all. Definitely a weird test, but what can you do.

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby cardinals03 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:41 pm

bee's vision wrote:Yeah I def had 102 questions. 26 for both LR (and exp LR), 26 for RC and 24 for LG


Uh-oh, I remember 23 on LG - was there in fact 24?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby jr1886 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:42 pm

Hardest LR question for me: Aliens!!!! dang

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby jr1886 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:43 pm

cardinals03 wrote:
bee's vision wrote:Yeah I def had 102 questions. 26 for both LR (and exp LR), 26 for RC and 24 for LG


Uh-oh, I remember 23 on LG - was there in fact 24?

Both LR had 26 questions

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby cardinals03 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:44 pm

jr1886 wrote:
cardinals03 wrote:
bee's vision wrote:Yeah I def had 102 questions. 26 for both LR (and exp LR), 26 for RC and 24 for LG


Uh-oh, I remember 23 on LG - was there in fact 24?

Both LR had 26 questions


so it was:
LR - 52
RC - 27
LG - 23 (not 24)

total = 102?

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Re: December 2010 Initial Reactions

Postby mooreliberty » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:46 pm

richardhelms wrote:I can't remember a previous test being out of 102?? Has there been one?

only one i found was october 92, before the ACT guys took it over




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