Question about October 2010 LSAT

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Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby cinefile 17 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:47 pm

It seems like there is an abnormally large number of people who are shocked by their October LSAT scores and/or don't really have any kind of idea or explanation for why their scores are so much lower than their practice tests. Of course, this will always be the case with a few people. However, it seems like this happened this LSAT administration to a ton of people on TLS.

Is this the case or is my observation off. If this is the case, why do you think it is so? Was this LSAT abnormally tricky? If so, why wasn't it curved more? Any thoughts?
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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby typ3 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:48 pm

cinefile 17 wrote:It seems like there is an abnormally large number of people who are shocked by their October LSAT scores and/or don't really have any kind of idea or explanation for why their score is so much lower than their practice tests. Of course, this will always be the case with a few people. However, it seems like this happened this LSAT cycle to a ton of people on TLS.

Is this the case or is my observation off. If this is the case, why do you think it is so? Was this LSAT abnormally tricky? If so, why wasn't it curved more? Any thoughts?



It wasn't any different from any other test admission. I would recommend paging back to the forum comments after June's LSAT or last year's October.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby JazzOne » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:15 pm

I don't ever remember this much hand wringing after an LSAT, and I've been around for a few administrations. There are always disappointed people, but it really seems prevalent this time. I'm worried for my students. None of them have reported their scores to me yet, so I assume that means bad news.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby gdane » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:21 pm

More people have decided to whine. The test wasnt anything new. Also, keep in mind the kind of scores people are complaining about. A lot of them are mid to high 160 scores, definitely nothing to whine about.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby albusdumbledore » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:25 pm

gdane5 wrote:More people have decided to whine. The test wasnt anything new. Also, keep in mind the kind of scores people are complaining about. A lot of them are mid to high 160 scores, definitely nothing to whine about.


This. I imagine it will get continually worse, as the children of helicopter parents get older.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby incompetentia » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:44 pm

From what I can tell, there were quite a few people who unexpectedly did very well, and many more who unexpectedly did badly. This seems like the test is now geared toward a different set of takers...noticed that only one person who boldly predicted 176+ actually got 176+, and the rest that did that well were not expecting it.

Is it possible the psychometricians are getting better at combatting test prep?

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby bp colin » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:02 pm

Looking over all the threads, I thought that there might be more unhappy people than usual too. But of my students, it was pretty standard in terms of the percentage that did better/worse/as well as they thought.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby Sandro » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:13 pm

I think its pretty simple - PTs aren't the same pressure cooker as is an LSAT with 40 other people that decides your future. 4 missed questions stand between me and a 167, and I bombed -8 LG and -9LR, those 3 sections alone giving me more missed than most of my PTs.


I do think the test is changing. It would be silly to think that they arent introducing new tricks/traps and new LG scenarios.....

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby hwaggone » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:30 pm

After the June Lsat the board was pretty much just filled with holy shit that was hard, and already canceled. I feel that this one had alot of people thinking they did well and didnt. (I was in this boat)

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby nStiver » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:12 am

I just bombed it because I didn't sleep. I thought I did better, but it makes sense now that I scored so much lower than my PT average because without sleep, you can not think. Pretty basic really. The test itself is of average difficulty. I don't think there is any magic here.

edit: grammar

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby incompetentia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:14 am

hwaggone wrote:After the June Lsat the board was pretty much just filled with holy shit that was hard, and already canceled. I feel that this one had alot of people thinking they did well and didnt. (I was in this boat)

I may note that the curve was almost identical (2 more questions, and each conversion is 2 more correct answers almost all the way down the line from 180 to 140). Remember, too, the test is still equated

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby nStiver » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:29 am

incompetentia wrote:
hwaggone wrote:After the June Lsat the board was pretty much just filled with holy shit that was hard, and already canceled. I feel that this one had alot of people thinking they did well and didnt. (I was in this boat)

I may note that the curve was almost identical (2 more questions, and each conversion is 2 more correct answers almost all the way down the line from 180 to 140). Remember, too, the test is still equated


Every time I see Oprah's grinning mug I want to puke thanks to you and your damn 180...

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby incompetentia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:31 am

Different Oprah picture would help? I had like four Oprah tars made for me

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby Adjudicator » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:33 am

I'm torn between jealously hating incompetentia, and wanting to be his best friend.

Of course, who says you can't do both?

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby nStiver » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:34 am

incompetentia wrote:Different Oprah picture would help? I had like four Oprah tars made for me


No avatar changing will stop me from grieving over the lost dream of seeing that 180 pop up in my mail box, and I now associate you with a 180. You sicken me.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby incompetentia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:38 am

Do you want a cookie? I made some delicious ones over the weekend.

they have bacon in them

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby Adjudicator » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:40 am

incompetentia wrote:Do you want a cookie? I made some delicious ones over the weekend.

they have bacon in them


I made bacon chocolate chip cookies before... I had tasted a chocolate bar with bacon made by Vosges and discovered that bacon and chocolate are a great combination. So I made these cookies. They were pretty good. My wife still raves about them.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby incompetentia » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:43 am

You're not kidding. Bacon and chocolate...who the hell thinks of these things.

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Re: Question about October 2010 LSAT

Postby nStiver » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:46 am

Really? hmm, never heard of bacon and chocolate. Must be a 180 thing.




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