Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

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Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby gabletrained » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:48 pm

Compared to tests from the past. What is the general consensus?

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby kwais » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Some may disagree, but I would say that it was on the easy side of average. Especially in the games department

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby kkklick » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Well I'm sure we'll find out tomorrow won't we...

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby HowdyYall » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:51 pm

predictable games. RC- average for last few LSATs, LG- harder/novel question types?

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby kwais » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:52 pm

I freakin hope so

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby JoeShmoe11 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 pm

LG - easy-ish. RC - easy. LR - pretty tough. Overall a 4.5 out of 10 I'd say where the average difficulty test is a 5. But a lot of people took it and it was an October test so I can almost guarantee a curve of -10.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby KevinP » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 pm

Average to a bit harder, I would bet a -11 or -12 curve.
The games seemed straight forward... just time consuming.
LR was a bit weird and had a few new question types.
RC was easier (closer to pre-50s) tests on passages 1-3. But the transnational passage was difficult.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby am060459 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:06 pm

KevinP wrote:Average to a bit harder, I would bet a -11 or -12 curve.


+1

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby Sandro » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:07 pm

-11 or -12 curve


OR -14 !!! MUHAUHAHUHA

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby Rikkugrrl » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:10 pm

LG: Easier than average, but not super easy
LR1: Harder than average
LR2: Easier than average
RC: Average (except the last passage, that one was harder than average)

My prediction: -10 or -11

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby 58932ugahoige » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:14 pm

Remember this is not a representative sample. Logic games were time consuming; most people would not have finished. That may lower the curve. At the same time, Logical Reasoning was time consuming and a bit more difficult, but I'm sure people came to the right answers. I venture -10, -11.

There is also like, 9 bajillion threads on this already.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby KevinP » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:19 pm

Also, the influx of people taking the LSAT due to the economy could have made the curve more generous.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby masterthearts » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:23 pm

It seems like all posters get 170+ ,but I guess you'll need to prove your score, per the new rulses. So no one will be able to make stuff up

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby risktaker » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:27 pm

I say a surprising -13 curve for the October 2010 test!

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby Sandro » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:29 pm

risktaker wrote:I say a surprising -13 curve for the October 2010 test!


not out of the question according to some guy on here who had way too much free time and analyzed the curve as it relates to every June/Oct test since the start.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby JurisDoctorate » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:35 pm

Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby JJDancer » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:38 pm

weird new LR.
average RC (based on recent ones PT 55+)
easier games but a couple of tricky things/possible rule messup --> time constraint

WE WILL TELL YOU AFTER WE GET OUR SCORES/THE CURVE

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby etown989 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:39 pm

Rikkugrrl wrote:LG: Easier than average, but not super easy
LR1: Harder than average
LR2: Easier than average
RC: Average (except the last passage, that one was harder than average)

My prediction: -10 or -11


agreed 100% on all points

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby Ragged » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:40 pm

I thought overall it was much easier except for the 26 LR, which had a handful of tricky questions.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby kkklick » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm

Basically my feeling is there is a HUGE population of those taking the LSAT who aren't adequately prepared. This LSAT was easy for those who were fully or over prepared but presented huge difficulties for those who didn't prepare enough.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby kkklick » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm

Ragged wrote:I thought overall it was much easier except for the 26 LR, which had a handful of tricky questions.

True, Ragged good luck tomorrow my friend. May the force be with you

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby jazzmastersc » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:42 pm

JurisDoctorate wrote:Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.


In five years will all Tier 1 and 2 schools then have a median LSAT of around 168?

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby NJcollegestudent » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:44 pm

Its quite difficult to actually get a consensus and thus can only be based on your performance. Logic games were tough, LR were about average and perhaps a bit easier, and RC seemed normal.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby 3|ink » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:45 pm

Easy.

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Re: Was Oct. test considered easy, average, or hard?

Postby JurisDoctorate » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:11 am

jazzmastersc wrote:
JurisDoctorate wrote:Most of you are out of your minds.

While some may say it was "easy", that does not necessarily mean they would score higher. With the LG, there were SO MANY hypo's that performance on the LG will be as low as it's ever been. The LR had enough curveballs to trick a bunch, as well as some formidable difficult questions.

Additionally, with all of these students taking the LSAT who have not prepared and are only taking the test of the economy - scores will be down. If the curve is lower than -12, I'll be shocked and I'll completely eat crow. However, I'd be just as shocked if the curve was lower than -14.

I am certain that it will be -15 and we are in a trend that will lead to a -20, within the next 5 years.


In five years will all Tier 1 and 2 schools then have a median LSAT of around 168?


Perhaps. I don't know the historical data, but haven't top schools' medians been going up - already?

At the end of the day, the test is getting harder (harder games - which were designed in response to test prep companies) and students are less prepared which leads to the need for a bigger curve.

Like I said, I'll eat crow but it's going to be another huge curve and I think we've seen our last single digit curves.




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