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northwood
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nor

Postby northwood » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:35 pm

im having a brain fart right now on lg

when i see nor, as in if w is selected, neither h nor z is selected, would i diagram nor as a not or

or is it and?

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Re: nor

Postby ly2010 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:41 pm

northwood wrote:im having a brain fart right now on lg

when i see nor, as in if w is selected, neither h nor z is selected, would i diagram nor as a not or

or is it and?


W<--x--->H
W<--x--->Z

I diagram it by breaking it up into two.

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Re: nor

Postby northwood » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:47 pm

thanks.. for some reason i thought it simply meant not or..... but when i diagramed it as 1 line i started to confuse myself

ill just break it up from here on out ( cant believe i made that mistake)

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Re: nor

Postby ly2010 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:50 pm

northwood wrote:thanks.. for some reason i thought it simply meant not or..... but when i diagramed it as 1 line i started to confuse myself

ill just break it up from here on out ( cant believe i made that mistake)


I think I am right...but let's see what other ppl say. :mrgreen:

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Re: nor

Postby ly2010 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:54 pm

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=95891


So "and."

But yea, I think it's easier to break them down. Which game are you working on? I remember doing one with "nor" a long time ago...

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Re: nor

Postby Destined » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:55 pm

northwood wrote:im having a brain fart right now on lg

when i see nor, as in if w is selected, neither h nor z is selected, would i diagram nor as a not or

or is it and?





I keep it as one:

W> -H AND -Z

H OR Z > -W

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Re: nor

Postby northwood » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:26 pm

thanks.. i was re visiting some 2 d in and out games. I was workign with the jewlers and the stone from pt 33. I havent done it in a while, so i figured it would be a good idea to refresh

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Re: nor

Postby BlueDiamond » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:29 pm

I didn;t read anything other than the OP, but when doing LG and you see a nor just remember "not AND not" or "not A AND not B". If someone else said this sorry.

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Re: nor

Postby northwood » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:33 pm

thanks... its amazing how you forget things that you dont practice often.....

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Re: nor

Postby JJDancer » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:37 pm

Destined wrote:
northwood wrote:im having a brain fart right now on lg

when i see nor, as in if w is selected, neither h nor z is selected, would i diagram nor as a not or

or is it and?





I keep it as one:

W> -H AND -Z

H OR Z > -W


This is how I do it.

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Re: nor

Postby lakers3peat » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:43 pm

this same problem happened to me. i know this has already been answered but the reason they use nor, which can make you think 'or', is because in english grammar, when using "neither" in a sentence, you are saying not the first object and not the second object are behaving in a certain way. The nouns/pronouns are in agreement with one another. so they are in agreement with each other in the negative sense.

Neither Topaz nor Emerald are selected. (Topaz isn't selected. Emerald isn't selected.)


Correct: -T and -E

Incorrect: -T or -E.


By diagramming it as 'or' you leave yourself vulnerable to believing that only one of the two is not selected. you have to make sure you get that neither is.




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