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advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:09 pm
by sher11ock
Hi there, I'm currently a senior in high school and am avid in becoming a lawyer in years to come. The LSAT looks pretty intimidating to me and i am in need of some early preparation. Any advice on classes to take in college or what a strong major is for law school is appreciated. Any information for the future is helpful for that matter. Thanks!

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:12 pm
by dakatz
No, you are not in need of some early preparation. What you are in need of is doing well and studying hard during college, making friends, and enjoying your experience. There are no "strong majors" for law school. There are people in my law school class from every imaginable route. And there is no class in college that will help you, aside from those that involve extensive critical reading.

My best advice is to not worry about such things now. There is far too much in between you and possibly applying to law school one day for you to concern yourself. Bridge that gap by enjoying your college experience and making the most out of it, both academically and socially.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:12 pm
by beachbum
Oh boy. Major in something that you enjoy and that you can do well in. If you have the opportunity, take some courses in formal and informal logic. Classes that require you to read and analyze dense material might also be worth your while. But above all else... just enjoy college. There's nothin like it, and once it's gone... it's gone. Try not to worry too much about law school for the next few years.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:13 pm
by LawandOrder
Don't become a lawyer, you will be poor and have hundreds of thousands in student loan debt.

Also stop worrying about the LSAT. You're probably 17 or 18 and can worry about doing well on it in 4 years if you choose to ignore the above advice. Just get the best grades you can.

Then go to Med School.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:15 pm
by Adjudicator
The best thing to major in is something that you are sure you can get A's in, because that's basically all that law schools look at under the current system. In terms of preparing you for the LSAT or law school, majors such as English Literature and Philosophy can help, by teaching you a repertoire of skills including critical reading and argument analysis.

But, if you're interested in science as well as law, getting a degree in science allows you to practice patent law, which is a great field.

Bottom line, choose something you're going to excel at.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:15 pm
by CanadianWolf
Intro. to Logic. Courses that require analytical reading & writing.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:15 pm
by paratactical
Get laid. Try pot in college. Have fun but make good grades (GPA > Major in law school apps). Get your heart broken a few times. Learn to do keg stands and kick ass at beer pong. Learn to balance work and play. These are skills you should learn before the legal world eats your soul.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:19 pm
by emilybeth
paratactical wrote:Get laid. Try pot in college. Have fun but make good grades (GPA > Major in law school apps). Get your heart broken a few times. Learn to do keg stands and kick ass at beer pong. Learn to balance work and play. These are skills you should learn before the legal world eats your soul.
This.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:39 pm
by The Gentleman
Lol. This post made me remember something. When I was a HS senior, I met with the pre-law advisor at the university I ended up attending. He gave me a copy of an LSAT preptest and told me that it was never too early to start prepping. In retrospect, I should have laughed in his face.

OP, the best advice any of us can give you is to take your freshman year seriously. There are countless people whose GPAs are stellar except for their freshman year, when they pulled a 2.1. Go to class, get involved, and have a good time. Check back two years from now.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:34 pm
by gdane
The Gentleman wrote:Lol. This post made me remember something. When I was a HS senior, I met with the pre-law advisor at the university I ended up attending. He gave me a copy of an LSAT preptest and told me that it was never too early to start prepping. In retrospect, I should have laughed in his face.

OP, the best advice any of us can give you is to take your freshman year seriously. There are countless people whose GPAs are stellar except for their freshman year, when they pulled a 2.1. Go to class, get involved, and have a good time. Check back two years from now.
They're supposed to tell you to prep. Them telling you not to prep is sure to make them look less credible.

Shelock definitely dont worry about any law school stuff, especially the LSAT, right now. Just do the best you can. Take easy classes and pump up your GPA as much as is possible. I made the mistake of 1) Partying too hard during freshman year and 2) Taking a bunch of difficult classes with the most difficult teachers because I thought it would help in admissions. Number 1 led me to have an unsteller year that drags an overall great college transcript and number 2 led me to really hate what I was studying. Looking back I wouldve taken freshman year more seriously and I wouldve taken easy classes like intro to cocksucking or whatever.

Just take it easy.

Good luck!

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:43 pm
by Fark-o-vision
gdane5 wrote:
The Gentleman wrote:Lol. This post made me remember something. When I was a HS senior, I met with the pre-law advisor at the university I ended up attending. He gave me a copy of an LSAT preptest and told me that it was never too early to start prepping. In retrospect, I should have laughed in his face.

OP, the best advice any of us can give you is to take your freshman year seriously. There are countless people whose GPAs are stellar except for their freshman year, when they pulled a 2.1. Go to class, get involved, and have a good time. Check back two years from now.
They're supposed to tell you to prep. Them telling you not to prep is sure to make them look less credible.

Shelock definitely dont worry about any law school stuff, especially the LSAT, right now. Just do the best you can. Take easy classes and pump up your GPA as much as is possible. I made the mistake of 1) Partying too hard during freshman year and 2) Taking a bunch of difficult classes with the most difficult teachers because I thought it would help in admissions. Number 1 led me to have an unsteller year that drags an overall great college transcript and number 2 led me to really hate what I was studying. Looking back I wouldve taken freshman year more seriously and I wouldve taken easy classes like intro to cocksucking or whatever.

Just take it easy.

Good luck!
Anyone who thinks cocksucking is easy should ask my girlfriend about it.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:39 pm
by The Gentleman
gdane5 wrote:They're supposed to tell you to prep. Them telling you not to prep is sure to make them look less credible.
Do you stalk me on these forums for the sole purpose of having the chance to refute everything I say? I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:45 pm
by gdane
The Gentleman wrote:
gdane5 wrote:They're supposed to tell you to prep. Them telling you not to prep is sure to make them look less credible.
Do you stalk me on these forums for the sole purpose of having the chance to refute everything I say? I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted.
Son, I think Ive responded to two or three of your posts. You're a small fish in my pond.

Plus, I wanted to "resolve the paradox".

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:57 pm
by TheTopBloke
sher11ock wrote:Hi there, I'm currently a senior in high school and am avid in becoming a lawyer in years to come. The LSAT looks pretty intimidating to me and i am in need of some early preparation. Any advice on classes to take in college or what a strong major is for law school is appreciated. Any information for the future is helpful for that matter. Thanks!
Why do you want to be a lawyer?

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:47 pm
by sher11ock
Definitely not just for the money. Mainly because I just enjoy a good debate about anything

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:54 pm
by deadhipsters
sher11ock wrote:Definitely not just for the money. Mainly because I just enjoy a good debate about anything

Ugh to that comment. Go to med school or become an engineer. If you have the grades and money go to an elite college in the Northeast and become an I-banker. Law school is for lost souls of the liberal arts.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:58 pm
by NU_Jet55
sher11ock wrote:Definitely not just for the money. Mainly because I just enjoy a good debate about anything
1. Go to the cheapest college possible
2. Major in something you like and you can get something close to a 4.0 in-it doesn't matter what. Just make sure you take some formal logic classes.
3. Get drunk, get laid, get high, repeat.
4. Realize how stupid of a reason that "enjoying a good debate" is to go to law school.
5. ???
6. Profit

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:00 pm
by Jackie O
The best advice I can give to a high school senior is to drink in the woods, ideally at a place you can walk to. That way you won't have to worry about whose parents' house you'll sneak booze into and you won't have to bother with a lousy fake ID.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:04 pm
by deadhipsters
Jackie O wrote:The best advice I can give to a high school senior is to drink in the woods, ideally at a place you can walk to. That way you won't have to worry about whose parents' house you'll sneak booze into and you won't have to bother with a lousy fake ID.
Worst advice EVER:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 ... death.html

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:08 pm
by hijodehombre
deadhipsters wrote:
sher11ock wrote:Definitely not just for the money. Mainly because I just enjoy a good debate about anything

Ugh to that comment. Go to med school or become an engineer. If you have the grades and money go to an elite college in the Northeast and become an I-banker. Law school is for lost souls of the liberal arts.
So true.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:12 pm
by Jackie O
deadhipsters wrote:
Jackie O wrote:The best advice I can give to a high school senior is to drink in the woods, ideally at a place you can walk to. That way you won't have to worry about whose parents' house you'll sneak booze into and you won't have to bother with a lousy fake ID.
Worst advice EVER:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 ... death.html
bundle up.
also stay away from bodies of water.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:25 pm
by EarlCat
sher11ock wrote:Hi there, I'm currently a senior in high school and am avid in becoming a lawyer in years to come. The LSAT looks pretty intimidating to me and i am in need of some early preparation. Any advice on classes to take in college or what a strong major is for law school is appreciated. Any information for the future is helpful for that matter. Thanks!
Strictly for law school admissions (which is NOT all you should think about), I'd focus on the following in this order of priority:
Get good grades.
Pick a handful of professors and spend LOTS of time hanging out with them--the best recommendation letters come from profs who know you outside of class.
Do tons of interesting stuff that you can use to tell a heartwarming change-your-life story.
Put yourself in more than one leadership position.
Do tons of volunteer work.
Pick an interesting and uncommon major (a hard science if you can stomache it).

Don't bother with formal logic. (It's frankly more complicated than you'll ever need, and among my students, the ones who have taken formal logic confuse themselves with it more often than not.)

Worry about LSAT prep later. You've got several years of living to do.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:27 pm
by EarlCat
Fark-o-vision wrote:Anyone who thinks cocksucking is easy should ask my girlfriend about it.
You need a new girlfriend.

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:38 pm
by NU_Jet55
EarlCat wrote:
sher11ock wrote:Hi there, I'm currently a senior in high school and am avid in becoming a lawyer in years to come. The LSAT looks pretty intimidating to me and i am in need of some early preparation. Any advice on classes to take in college or what a strong major is for law school is appreciated. Any information for the future is helpful for that matter. Thanks!
Strictly for law school admissions (which is NOT all you should think about), I'd focus on the following in this order of priority:
Get good grades.
Pick a handful of professors and spend LOTS of time hanging out with them--the best recommendation letters come from profs who know you outside of class.
Do tons of interesting stuff that you can use to tell a heartwarming change-your-life story.
Put yourself in more than one leadership position.
Do tons of volunteer work.
Pick an interesting and uncommon major (a hard science if you can stomache it).

Don't bother with formal logic. (It's frankly more complicated than you'll ever need, and among my students, the ones who have taken formal logic confuse themselves with it more often than not.)


Worry about LSAT prep later. You've got several years of living to do.
FTFY

Re: advice for a senior in high school

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:52 pm
by deadhipsters
Major in something practical. You might suck at the LSAT. Then what will you do? Seriously.

Easy classes usually correspond with worthless degrees. Take my degree in Government for example... I'm so glad I did that rather than finance... *shakes fist at former classmates working at Goldman*