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Post by DreamShake » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:00 pm

Just knocked out PT 58:
-1 LR, -0 LG, -0 RC, -1 LR.
99/101=not really sure, since I lost the conversion table.

The first LR question I missed was #5...not really sure how to explain that. Missed #20 on the second section due to not reading through the answer choices/being in a hurry to finish, which is kind of dumb since I finished with 12 minutes left; I'm definitely going to be more thorough on test day, though. Really pumped to get 179-180 on my last PT leading up to the real thing, especially since I woke up at 6:30, did the morning routine, and started testing at 9:15. Took half of a 5-hour energy at about 8:15, and I think it helped me push through the first couple sections till my concentration naturally kicked in at about 10:30. Definitely going to do the same on Saturday. Going to organize all the problems I've missed in my PT's and review them tomorrow, then take Friday off. I will then absolutely kill the LSAT on Saturday. :P

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Post by Adjudicator » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:05 pm

Just rose to the occasion on PT#60 and scored a 180... now that I am all out of PTs, here is my practice log going back to the beginning of September:

PT49: 177
PT50: 175
PT43: 177
PT38: 179
PT52: 177
PT53: 172
PT54: 176
PT55: 178
PT56: 179
PT57: 174
PT58: 175
PT59: 179
PT60: 180

Average: 176.7

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Post by Norlan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:35 pm

Adjudicator wrote:Just rose to the occasion on PT#60 and scored a 180... now that I am all out of PTs, here is my practice log going back to the beginning of September:

PT49: 177
PT50: 175
PT43: 177
PT38: 179
PT52: 177
PT53: 172
PT54: 176
PT55: 178
PT56: 179
PT57: 174
PT58: 175
PT59: 179
PT60: 180

Average: 176.7

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Post by minnbills » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:41 pm

Just got done with the first two sections of PT 60. Got killed.

LR1 -6. worst LR performance I can remember.
LG -8!!! WTF. It's so damn frustrating. I'll mark whatever answers I got wrong without looking at the right answer, and I'll figure them out within a second or two. I don't know I keep getting nailed so bad on these games.

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Post by aesis » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:18 pm

Finished PT 60 before I had to rush to work.

LR -1/-1
LG -0 (motherfckinghard)
RC -5 (uhh lol)
93 --> ? I don't have the conversion table. 173?
RC experimental I haven't graded.

I had RC last. By this time I was already going to be late for work, and the RC experimental (Section 2) kind of drained me. Having real RC last sucks, but honestly I think on test day it won't matter since I'll be amped and won't succumb to fatigue. Very pleased with LR, and very scared of 61's LG.

I would opt for a moderate LG and a moderate curve than a hard LG and lenient curve. -0 LG's are necessary cushions for my goal of 175+. :(

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Post by psychlaw » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:21 pm

Just finished PT 60 and it is by far the best I have done. :)
I was a little distracted during the second LR due to an extremely loud baby crying in the library. UGH, people take your babies outside

Breakdown:
LR1:-5
LG:-4
LR2:-4
RC:-11 :shock: First time i didnt finish the section. I didnt even get to the last passage.

162
Although it is not the ideal score, Im ok with it at this point

Ill probably do PT 59 later tonight when Im tired

What did you guys think of PT60? Hard? Easy? They are all the same to me

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Post by psychlaw » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:22 pm

aesis wrote:Finished PT 60 before I had to rush to work.

LR -1/-1
LG -0 (motherfckinghard)
RC -5 (uhh lol)
93 --> ? I don't have the conversion table. 173?
RC experimental I haven't graded.

I had RC last. By this time I was already going to be late for work, and the RC experimental (Section 2) kind of drained me. Having real RC last sucks, but honestly I think on test day it won't matter since I'll be amped and won't succumb to fatigue. Very pleased with LR, and very scared of 61's LG.

I would opt for a moderate LG and a moderate curve than a hard LG and lenient curve. -0 LG's are necessary cushions for my goal of 175+. :(

93 raw= 175 on PT60 Congrats

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Post by almostthereee » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:26 pm

LG is definitely getting scary. 57, 58, 59, 60 had some WTF LG's for me. I hope to at least be able to finish 3 games on 61 leaving the hardest for last and having enough time to brute force at least 60% of the questions on that game.

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Post by WonkyPanda » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:27 pm

what do you guys think was harder, 59 or 60? I am doing 60 tomorrow and I found 59 to be quite a doozy

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Post by minnbills » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:31 pm

WonkyPanda wrote:what do you guys think was harder, 59 or 60? I am doing 60 tomorrow and I found 59 to be quite a doozy
I didn't think 59 was that bad, 60 either for that matter. Apparently I just went into idiot mode on both tests.

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Post by aesis » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:40 pm

minnbills wrote:
WonkyPanda wrote:what do you guys think was harder, 59 or 60? I am doing 60 tomorrow and I found 59 to be quite a doozy
I didn't think 59 was that bad, 60 either for that matter. Apparently I just went into idiot mode on both tests.
59 is hard because Game 3 doesn't give you any freebie answers from your hypotheticals you did in the previous questions. You have to work for them. 59-Game 4 is also tough and requires several setups.

60 is ... similar in one of those respects. Haha, don't want to give it away.
I guess 57/60 were the hardest in my experience.

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Post by almostthereee » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:43 pm

Haha I knew 57 was gonna be bad when I finished the first game in 3 minutes. It was at that point I realized the dreaded dino game was in 57.

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Post by Norlan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:12 pm

almostthereee wrote:Haha I knew 57 was gonna be bad when I finished the first game in 3 minutes. It was at that point I realized the dreaded dino game was in 57.
regarding 57, what was your approach for the game on actors G, O, R? i illustrated all 3 rules and attempted to come up all possible options...however, all i could do was only to eliminate R from weds as I set it up in a table with rows by columns

should i have tested out all 5 choices from the pool one by one for better elimination or is there a more efficient way to solve this?

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Post by Adjudicator » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:26 pm

Ironically I felt, at the time I was taking it, that 60 was one of the hardest tests ever, yet I ended up getting a 180 for only my second time ever. I must have gotten lucky on quite a few problems, because I remember being very unsure of several in the second LR and tons in the RC, even though I aced both of those sections.

I would still say that it is a pretty tough test. I was just really on the ball this morning, and also had a bit of luck.

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Post by minnbills » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:35 pm

I think attitude and sleep deprivation are getting me right now. Monday night I stayed up til 1 writing a paper then woke up at 5 to finish. I got maybe 7 hours tuesday night as well. Plus, with the newest test, I've been more concerned with grading/reviewing than with simulating the test environment- so I'll take a section and then grade it. If I don't do well on the first section I work up myself up in anger and I think it clouds my judgment.

I don't know, I'm pretty down in the dumbs right now. Two weeks ago I broke the 170 barrier twice, then went 168, then 164, then 162 ugh...

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Post by Adjudicator » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:38 pm

minnbills wrote:I think attitude and sleep deprivation are getting me right now. Monday night I stayed up til 1 writing a paper then woke up at 5 to finish. I got maybe 7 hours tuesday night as well. Plus, with the newest test, I've been more concerned with grading/reviewing than with simulating the test environment- so I'll take a section and then grade it. If I don't do well on the first section I work up myself up in anger and I think it clouds my judgment.

I don't know, I'm pretty down in the dumbs right now. Two weeks ago I broke the 170 barrier twice, then went 168, then 164, then 162 ugh...
At this point, I think taking a break and getting adequate rest and relaxation will help you more than any more studying or reviewing could.

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Post by DreamShake » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:50 pm

WonkyPanda wrote:what do you guys think was harder, 59 or 60? I am doing 60 tomorrow and I found 59 to be quite a doozy
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Post by Norlan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:42 pm

why cant it be D on PT57 #6? it meets all conditions and fits in the space...

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Post by DreamShake » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:47 pm

Norlan wrote:why cant it be D on PT57 #6? it meets all conditions and fits in the space...
There's nobody auditioning on Friday ("On each of these days at least one of the actors auditions").

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Post by Norlan » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:33 pm

DreamShake wrote:
Norlan wrote:why cant it be D on PT57 #6? it meets all conditions and fits in the space...
There's nobody auditioning on Friday ("On each of these days at least one of the actors auditions").
ok thanks, there's one more...

why is #10 C? how is it that all 3 actors audition on saturday? i mean there are only 2 slots in a day....

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Post by sknight323 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:25 pm

Having a little trouble understanding why the answer is E instead of C on pt 56, 2.20. Can someone clarify..thanks

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Post by sarahlawg » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:33 pm

minnbills wrote:I think attitude and sleep deprivation are getting me right now.

I don't know, I'm pretty down in the dumbs right now. Two weeks ago I broke the 170 barrier twice, then went 168, then 164, then 162 ugh...
I'm with you here. I feel like I'm in total regression... Took 59 on Saturday and got 169 - quite pleased. Took 60 on Monday, which I actually sat for in June, and got 165... took June 2007 on Tuesday and got 165. Just took frickin' June '95 with a 165 as well. Before 59, I'd gotten 171 on 58, 169 on 57, 171 on 56, 168 on 55.... I feel like my head is going to explode and I don't know if I should go into crazy mode studying or relax mode and go get a message...

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Post by JJDancer » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:36 pm

Norlan wrote:ok thanks, there's one more...

why is #10 C? how is it that all 3 actors audition on saturday? i mean there are only 2 slots in a day....
Because it never says there are only 2 perday.
It says each actor auditions on TWO DAYS. And at least one each day.
C)
O on wed, and sat
R on thurs and sat (fulfills the thurs+sat thing)
G on friday and Sat (fulfills G and R on one day together - sat)

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Post by JJDancer » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:44 pm

sknight323 wrote:Having a little trouble understanding why the answer is E instead of C on pt 56, 2.20. Can someone clarify..thanks
I'm just looking at it and giving my impression. The stimulus says on tv/radio they entertain a broad audience and doing so is NEARLY ALWAYS incompatible with providing high-quality psychological help. So they should NEVER provide psychotherapy on tv.

C says : any chance that the therapy might be of less than high quality.
Isn't there usually "ANY" chance that it will be less than high quality? Like even if you go to their office..there is A CHANCE...so that is too extreme/not NEEDED to be ASSUMED to make the argument valid

You need to assume E: that Psychotherapists should never attempt to provide psychological help in a manner that makes it unlikely to be of high quality
(since they said it is NEARLY ALWAYS incompatible -- it is UNLIKELY to be high quality if its entertaining a broad audience, and similarly if it is high quality, its unlikely to be while they are on tv entertaining a broad audience).

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