Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

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Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TOMaHULK » Sat May 22, 2010 2:14 am

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.

But...

There's got to be little tips/secrets to testing for the LSAT that I'm missing.

So we're all doing the LG Bible/LR Bible, and taking as many PTs as possible.

But for the ones of you that are just cranking out awesome scores, do you have any little tips/tricks/secrets that you recognize that could help those of us less "test able" to get a boost of a couple points? *hell, even one point...

I know it sounds stupid and I'll get a lot of "there's no tips/secrets other than to study and study."

But I figured ANYthing would help, so please offer if you have any... :roll:

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby Kobe_Teeth » Sat May 22, 2010 2:50 am

Are you reviewing? really reviewing?

If so:
Do you have the answers AND the explanations as to why they are the correct answers?

If not, PM me.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby CryingMonkey » Sat May 22, 2010 3:56 am

I find attitude to be really important. If you approach the test with a positive attitude - not just "okay, I'm prepared," but "hey, this is going to be fun!" - I think it makes a difference. So that's my two cents, try to get pumped about taking the test. It won't make you go from 140 to 170, but it might give you an extra point or two.

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Postby afa_brandon » Sat May 22, 2010 9:32 am

CryingMonkey wrote:I find attitude to be really important. If you approach the test with a positive attitude - not just "okay, I'm prepared," but "hey, this is going to be fun!" - I think it makes a difference. So that's my two cents, try to get pumped about taking the test. It won't make you go from 140 to 170, but it might give you an extra point or two.


+1, but i take it one step further and just assume i'm going to dominate the test. this shakes me a little if i feel i screwed up on a section, but i just think back to the preptests i've taken and realize that whenever i think i bombed it, i usually did fine. it especially helps reduce the # of questions i get wrong because i second-guess myself


also remember that scoring lower than you wanted isn't the end of the world. there are always retakes :)

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TCScrutinizer » Sat May 22, 2010 9:59 am

TOMaHULK wrote:I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.

But...

There's got to be little tips/secrets to testing for the LSAT that I'm missing.

So we're all doing the LG Bible/LR Bible, and taking as many PTs as possible.

But for the ones of you that are just cranking out awesome scores, do you have any little tips/tricks/secrets that you recognize that could help those of us less "test able" to get a boost of a couple points? *hell, even one point...

I know it sounds stupid and I'll get a lot of "there's no tips/secrets other than to study and study."

But I figured ANYthing would help, so please offer if you have any... :roll:


Wear the most comfortable clothes you own. Don't eat strong-tasting foods the day or night before. Take a shower and shave the night before. In essence, minimize the possibility of all of the little possible annoyances that your body could bring up that might intrude upon your focus. Learn how to meditate. Don't study in the 48 hours before the test, but spend a good deal of time reading something you enjoy. Get to the test center early. Be in the moment. Don't dwell on previous questions (except on LG), and never think about what types of questions you have or haven't seen, or what might be coming. If you guess, go with your first instinct.

I doubt this will help, but it's the best I can do to explain my testing and pre-test behavior. I got a 171 with far less studying than most people on this site.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby jpSartre » Sat May 22, 2010 10:40 am

TOMaHULK wrote:I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.

But...

There's got to be little tips/secrets to testing for the LSAT that I'm missing.

So we're all doing the LG Bible/LR Bible, and taking as many PTs as possible.

But for the ones of you that are just cranking out awesome scores, do you have any little tips/tricks/secrets that you recognize that could help those of us less "test able" to get a boost of a couple points? *hell, even one point...

I know it sounds stupid and I'll get a lot of "there's no tips/secrets other than to study and study."

But I figured ANYthing would help, so please offer if you have any... :roll:


Important knowledge that helps decide between two similar choices often comes from experience. It's hard to articulate general rules that help get those last points, because from my experience those decision comes from intuition gained from repetition. Luckily though, if you do enough PTs, much of the test becomes routine. At that point, all you have to do is look out for irregularities.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby halfwaygone » Sat May 22, 2010 11:36 am

My experience: My goal was to take the test one time and break 170. I got a 172. My first practice test score was a 165, however, so my improvement was only 7 points above that, FWIW. My highest practice score was 180, and by the end I was only missing 1-2 questions (with 2 perfect practice tests).

What I did wrong: I expected to drop for the test date, because I had to travel 2 hours the night before, didn't really sleep at all because my hotel was a crap motel, and I knew navigating the building where the test was would take possibly 1-2 hours since I'm in Korea and even easy things become difficult with the language barrier. But I dropped a lot, if you think about it. So, I would say: Sleep, eat breakfast, and know where -- exactly -- your test site is beforehand. It probably cost me about 5 points in focus.

What I did right: As I said, I feel like I pretty much "mastered" the LSAT through practice.

*I practiced for 9 months. I needed that time to decide I really, truly, absolutely did want to go to law school. I work 52 hours a week and live in a foreign country, where little things (like a haircut) can take all day, I do have a social life, and I have to keep up with everyone back home, so I practiced in small doses throughout that time. But still, I think a little bit at a time helped me A LOT more than if I'd crammed since the LSAT is skill-based. I took 2 diagnostics, then practiced individual sections, then did full exams. I had lists, schedules, and strategies 'cause that's what I do.

*I actually LIKED my LSAT practice. Those silly logic games? I used to do those for fun as a kid, and I remembered and was all, "Cool! These are fun." Reading obscure passages and trying to answer those questions? I'd totally do that for fun. I approached it like a game, like Scrabble or a crossword puzzle, or some other nerdy-game endeavor. I feel like making it fun really helped me improve.

*I read complicated stuff, and I also taught reading strategies. Teaching reading strategies to kids (I'm a teacher now) really made me more aware of my own reading strategies. I don't think you have to *teach* it to be aware, but if reading comprehension is one of the thorns in your side, reading a few Ed. articles/books on reading comprehension might make you more aware of your own reading style. Reading complex texts that make you want to tear your hair out (science articles, user manuals for complex machinery, even some Faulkner) and understanding them can also help organically.

*I really studied the "reason" for every right answer, including the ones I got right. When I marked an answer, I made a mini-case in my head for why I'd marked it. Then, I saw if that matched. Even when I was answering a question right, I was making sure that I was getting it right for the *right* reason. I particularly did this when I was breaking the test into sections and studying the sections, which is when the majority of my improvement occurred. By the time I started taking full practice tests again, I'd improved 5 points above my diagnostic and never dropped below a 170 again.

*I gave myself LESS time on practice tests than I knew I'd get during the right test. I was giving myself 5 minutes less on practice tests by the end of my studying cycle. That helped me immensely on test day. While sleeplessness plagued me, I did finish everything early and never felt rushed. I also practiced in "distracting" places (park, coffee shop, etc).

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Postby TOMaHULK » Sat May 22, 2010 1:44 pm

Awesome stuff listed guys.

Thanks for the help, and not just flaming. I really appreciate that.

I'm going to try to use some of these tips on my next PT in a few.
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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby blhblahblah » Sat May 22, 2010 3:36 pm

Your english looks poor. That is probably the source of your problem. I mean, look at this atrocious sentence:

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.


Hone your english by reading more, instead of looking for that "magic pill" solution.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TOMaHULK » Sat May 22, 2010 5:15 pm

blhblahblah wrote:Your english looks poor. That is probably the source of your problem. I mean, look at this atrocious sentence:

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.


Hone your english by reading more, instead of looking for that "magic pill" solution.


I actually have a M.A. in English.

So...yeah, STFU.

It's called, using a BlackBerry for internet access today.

And like I mentioned before, not looking for "magic". Simple tips is what I'm asking for.

:roll:

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby A'nold » Sat May 22, 2010 5:21 pm

TOMaHULK wrote:
blhblahblah wrote:Your english looks poor. That is probably the source of your problem. I mean, look at this atrocious sentence:

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.


Hone your english by reading more, instead of looking for that "magic pill" solution.


I actually have a M.A. in English.

So...yeah, STFU.

It's called, using a BlackBerry for internet access today.

And like I mentioned before, not looking for "magic". Simple tips is what I'm asking for.

:roll:


This post did not help your cause.

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Postby fenway » Sat May 22, 2010 5:33 pm

TOMaHULK wrote:
blhblahblah wrote:Your english looks poor. That is probably the source of your problem. I mean, look at this atrocious sentence:

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.


Hone your english by reading more, instead of looking for that "magic pill" solution.


I actually have a M.A. in English.

So...yeah, STFU.

It's called, using a BlackBerry for internet access today.

And like I mentioned before, not looking for "magic". Simple tips is what I'm asking for.

:roll:


I hate to be that as*hole who picks on someone's TLS grammar, but I'd think with an M.A in English you'd know that "simple tips" is plural (a simple tip is/simple tips are...). Perhaps you majored in poetry?

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TCScrutinizer » Sat May 22, 2010 5:44 pm

TOMaHULK wrote:
blhblahblah wrote:Your english looks poor. That is probably the source of your problem. I mean, look at this atrocious sentence:

I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.


Hone your english by reading more, instead of looking for that "magic pill" solution.


I actually have a M.A. in English.

So...yeah, STFU.

It's called, using a BlackBerry for internet access today.

And like I mentioned before, not looking for "magic". Simple tips is what I'm asking for.

:roll:


Super defensive reactions are the opposite of how to get help on the internet.

On that note, where did you get your MA in English from, the University of Pango Pango?

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby lebob » Sat May 22, 2010 5:47 pm

lets be happy people yayay no fighting

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TOMaHULK » Sat May 22, 2010 5:48 pm

I agree with the above posts.

I'm on here to receive help with questions/concerns that I have.

Not to argue.

That being the case, I won't comment on the above posts any further.

I want to help my cause, and not hurt it.

That's all...

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby Encyclopedia Brown » Sat May 22, 2010 6:08 pm

I warmed up the morning of the test with one game section and a few LR questions. It definitely helped get my brain in gear.

As for your grammar... gotta watch those comma splices, dude.

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Postby Marionberry » Sat May 22, 2010 9:37 pm

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Postby TOMaHULK » Sat May 22, 2010 10:51 pm

Thank you for all advice above. I appreciate it.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby Rikkugrrl » Sun May 23, 2010 10:44 am

TCScrutinizer wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:I can safely say that some are just naturally better at taking test than I am. I'm accepted that fact, and I'm fine with it.

But...

There's got to be little tips/secrets to testing for the LSAT that I'm missing.

So we're all doing the LG Bible/LR Bible, and taking as many PTs as possible.

But for the ones of you that are just cranking out awesome scores, do you have any little tips/tricks/secrets that you recognize that could help those of us less "test able" to get a boost of a couple points? *hell, even one point...

I know it sounds stupid and I'll get a lot of "there's no tips/secrets other than to study and study."

But I figured ANYthing would help, so please offer if you have any... :roll:


Wear the most comfortable clothes you own. Don't eat strong-tasting foods the day or night before. Take a shower and shave the night before. In essence, minimize the possibility of all of the little possible annoyances that your body could bring up that might intrude upon your focus. Learn how to meditate. <b>Don't study in the 48 hours before the test</b>, but spend a good deal of time reading something you enjoy. Get to the test center early. Be in the moment. Don't dwell on previous questions (except on LG), and never think about what types of questions you have or haven't seen, or what might be coming. If you guess, go with your first instinct.

I doubt this will help, but it's the best I can do to explain my testing and pre-test behavior. I got a 171 with far less studying than most people on this site.


Does that include the day of the test? I always heard that you're supposed to do a game (not like a really hard one, one you've done before and liked) and a few LR problems to warm up in the morning.

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Postby Hey-O » Tue May 25, 2010 6:09 pm

All Sections:

I do the sections with only thirty minutes. Knowing I'm going to have an extra five minutes for the actual test helps me with timing.

LR:

I bracket the conclusion of any stimulus that has a conclusion. As soon as I see a conclusion I put a bracket around it. It just with pretty much any question that has a conclusion and helps me to be able to zone in on the conclusion instantly.

I do questions 1-15 first and then I do questions 25 (26,27 etc) - 15. These are all the easier questions. Helps me not to have to rush on the last few questions. I also know that I can spend as much time as I need on the hardest questions.

RC:

Put an explanation point next to any opinion of the author. Bracket important conclusions. Put ex. next to any example.

Any questions I miss find the exact word that makes them wrong. It's there. Every question is tied to specific words in the text.

LG:

Practice, practice, practice, practice. There is no secret for these games, but once you do enough of them you can recognize patterns.

I have a bunch of symbols for different relationships that I write next to the rules.

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Re: Little "Tips/Secrets"-There's got to be something I'm missin

Postby TOMaHULK » Wed May 26, 2010 11:18 am

Hey-O wrote:All Sections:

I do the sections with only thirty minutes. Knowing I'm going to have an extra five minutes for the actual test helps me with timing.

LR:

I bracket the conclusion of any stimulus that has a conclusion. As soon as I see a conclusion I put a bracket around it. It just with pretty much any question that has a conclusion and helps me to be able to zone in on the conclusion instantly.

I do questions 1-15 first and then I do questions 25 (26,27 etc) - 15. These are all the easier questions. Helps me not to have to rush on the last few questions. I also know that I can spend as much time as I need on the hardest questions.

RC:

Put an explanation point next to any opinion of the author. Bracket important conclusions. Put ex. next to any example.

Any questions I miss find the exact word that makes them wrong. It's there. Every question is tied to specific words in the text.

LG:

Practice, practice, practice, practice. There is no secret for these games, but once you do enough of them you can recognize patterns.

I have a bunch of symbols for different relationships that I write next to the rules.


Are you sure about the fact that on LR 1-14 and then the last 3 are the easiest? :?:




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