PT10 Section 1 No. 19

mz253
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PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby mz253 » Tue May 18, 2010 10:05 am

I chose C instead of D.

The reason for me to choose C is because councilors argue that "city taxes should be used primarily to benefit the people who pay them," i understand that increasing transit fare would disadvantage those who don't pay taxes, but why there's a second part "councilors agree that these residents should be able to take advantage of city-run services? don't they contradict themselves?

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Re: PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby tomwatts » Tue May 18, 2010 2:22 pm

The main conclusion (marked by a "therefore") is that bus fairs should be raised enough [blah blah blah]. C gives a reason they shouldn't: it would disadvantage certain people who (city councillors agree) shouldn't be disadvantaged in this way. The second half of answer choice C is just to make it even more clear that this would go against what the councillors want, which would screw the argument up badly.

D, on the other hand, is bad, but on logical grounds, the only thing it says is that other people disagree, and it might be in the best interests of the city councillors (if they're elected officials who are up for re-election at some point) to do what they want. But this is at best an irrelevant appeal to popular opinion or self-interest.

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Re: PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby Atlas LSAT Brian » Wed May 19, 2010 9:48 am

I pretty much agree with tomwatts here.

As he says, (C) provides a reason why the bus fare should not be raised - it would disadvantage people that ALL councillors want to be advantaged in this particular way.

(D) says voters don't want to raise taxes. So what? This is irrelevant because the argument is about raising bus fare, not taxes.

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Re: PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby mz253 » Thu May 20, 2010 1:12 pm

thanks for the reply. so when try to weaken the conclusion, i should just focus "should be increased" instead of "should be increased because tax should benefit those who pay taxes"?

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Re: PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby Atlas LSAT Brian » Thu May 20, 2010 7:58 pm

well... when doing a strengthen/weaken problem, the most important thing to focus on by far is the conclusion itself -- the most concisely worded (but accurately paraphrased!) version you can see. "Because" is a word that indicates a premise, or support for that conclusion. It's important in the scheme of things, but very much subordinate to the conclusion, especially on strengthen/weaken questions. I think the most common mistake people make on these questions is to get too tangled up in the reasoning. The reasoning is important to understand, but when choosing an answer, the conclusion is "where it's at," so to speak.

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Re: PT10 Section 1 No. 19

Postby funstuff » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:55 pm

Why is E not correct?
it doesn't strengthen the argument, but I don't get how it weakens it.




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