October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Albatross » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:25 pm

JohnBoy wrote:
eskimo wrote:
The "potential for changes" is just the possibility of throwing out a flawed question or one with no predictive value. The changes will NOT be because of a skewed/non-representative test-taking population at a certain administration because the whole point of equating is to make all administrations equal, so that scores from different tests are comparable. Individual administrations do not have a test-taking body that is representative of the whole, so a curve based upon that group would make NO sense and admissions committees wouldn't be able to compare scores from different administrations.


So technically, the test takers from the upcoming October test could all score 170+?


It seems as though this could happen.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Dany » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:42 pm

Albatross wrote:
JohnBoy wrote:
eskimo wrote:
The "potential for changes" is just the possibility of throwing out a flawed question or one with no predictive value. The changes will NOT be because of a skewed/non-representative test-taking population at a certain administration because the whole point of equating is to make all administrations equal, so that scores from different tests are comparable. Individual administrations do not have a test-taking body that is representative of the whole, so a curve based upon that group would make NO sense and admissions committees wouldn't be able to compare scores from different administrations.


So technically, the test takers from the upcoming October test could all score 170+?


It seems as though this could happen.

If you found 60,000+ people who could get ~90%+ of the questions right, then I guess so...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby JohnBoy » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:49 pm

the search begins...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Albatross » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:14 pm

JohnBoy wrote:the search begins...


I think we would be better off finding 50,000 or so people who can score ridiculously low. Then they might drop some more questions, leading to a higher score for you and me.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:27 pm

Yo Jaydizzle, sorry I missed your IM. I was at work so I got pulled away for an hour or so.

Anyone think it's a good/bad idea to take a break from LSAT prep for a few days? I'd like to take a week or so to hammer out my PS.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jaydizzle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:55 pm

I've basically been on break for 2 weeks now haha. I really need to actually do work these next two months. I don't feel like pushing back to December, I really want to apply for this cycle.

If I am planning on applying with my October scores, should I start my PS and other essays soon? My score will obviously determine if I am going in this cycle and what schools I should apply to. Right now I have no idea what will happen. I am going to get recs no matter what right when school starts, or I might send out some emails soon asking.
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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Albatross » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:56 pm

jaydizzle wrote:I've basically been on break for 2 weeks now haha. I really need to actually do work these next two months. I don't feel like pushing back to December, I really want to apply for this cycle.


You can still apply after the December administration. Though I wouldn't recommend it.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby smt1199 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:05 pm

retaking the LSAT this October and am trying to hit 165. I've read through the entire lg bible and am 1/2 way through the lr bible. I'm also planning on going through the rc bible - has anyone used this and did you find it useful?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jwaters » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:20 pm

JohnBoy...
Good advice, thanks.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:59 pm

My biggest thing right now is getting over the June 10 disappointment. I know it's wrong but I get mad whenever I see someone who is positive about this process and got a good score. It's like I just get frustrated all over again. Tomorrow is my first prep test since the exam. We'll see....I've done minimal studying.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby thegrayman » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:21 pm

Anyone interested in being an online study partner? I took a prep class so I am now just doing self study and PT's (2 a week, took PT 25 most recently). My range is 164-174, I can usually knock out the games and most of the LR save for the very difficult ones, my RC comp skills are what is killing me usually.

If someone thinks that they are approximately where I am at and is interested in improving together with me online, PM me. I am taking the Oct exam in LA, at Pepperdine.

good luck everyone.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:33 pm

I'm finishing up the LGB, and I hope it's just the book petering out and not me because I don't really like the advanced techniques chapter. It feels a bit redundant.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby crysmissmichelle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:14 pm

I read all three and found jewels of information in all. . .ultimately they just give you ideas and you have to customize to your own technique. . .but they are all helpful.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby shannon111 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:28 pm

i have read all three bibles also, they are very helpful. You jst have keep on practicing with the timing.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lparker » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:40 am

Right now I'm just working through all the games in the 10 Actual, Official LSAT book. The harvest ceremony game was the most challenging. I think if we get a game like that in October, I will probably cry a little. I plan on taking a practice test the first week of August.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby AKB » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:07 pm

Hello all...
1st time poster!!! :)

I am hoping to take the LSAT this October but i am getting stuck on weaken questions. I understand that the correct answer choice will generally attack the conclusion of the stimulus and i so-so get the idea behind weakening a stimulus which contains causal reasoning... but what about conditional reasoning? I have found that a vast majority of the weaken questions i have encountered have some conditionality in them (if....then statements) and i typically miss those when asked to weaken it. Is there a way to correctly weaken a conditional statement, or is the conditionality generally irrelevant in weakening and the correct answer choice lies in the conclusion?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby CurlyKat » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:40 pm

lparker wrote:Right now I'm just working through all the games in the 10 Actual, Official LSAT book. The harvest ceremony game was the most challenging. I think if we get a game like that in October, I will probably cry a little. I plan on taking a practice test the first week of August.


Oh I hate that game!!! I couldn't wrap my head around it! You wouldn't be the only one crying...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:24 pm

I really hate those kinds of games! Like the ones that ask you to change a pattern twice or three times and if it's been changed once could x be here with y or is there no t or whatever.. Like the flasks question or the stupid harvesters doing their silly little ceremonies.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:55 pm

Is that like the tennis tournament game? I hope so, I was ballin on that one.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lparker » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:28 pm

Hannibal wrote:Is that like the tennis tournament game? I hope so, I was ballin on that one.


Well then, don't mind me... I'll just be in the fetal position...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby shannon111 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:25 pm

Heyy Guys,

quick question, is anyone using the Logic Game Bible Workbook? I was planning to order one but wanted to see if anyone found it helpful
thanks

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:32 pm

I just did Preptest #19 timed, and scored a 168. -3LR, -4LR, -4RC, -2LG. I finished everything within the time limits, and without feeling rushed (okay a little rushed on the last LG, but finished with 2 minutes to look stuff over). Freaking RC... there was one passage where I knew I was just dying on. I can get 3/4 passages easily and know exactly what and then 1 (well, sometimes 2) just foul me up so badly. This one was the silly passage about why there are more species in zones around the equator than the pole. It was nice to start off with a literature passage on P.D. James, though, lol, especially considering I actually knew what the passage was talking about.

I'm excited for my LR Bible to get here. I think I need some tips and tricks for LR... I want to cut down total mistakes in LR to 4, and right now I'm getting 4 wrong on ONE LR section.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby ram10 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:40 pm

I just started a testmasters course and my cold diagnostic was 164, how high do you guys think it is realistic for me to aim? Half of my missed questions were on logic games, so I'm gonna be working on getting that down to a science. Also, any advice on what outside materials I should be using to supplement the prep class (I'm defintely going to pick up the logic games bible)?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Patriot1208 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:52 pm

ram10 wrote:I just started a testmasters course and my cold diagnostic was 164, how high do you guys think it is realistic for me to aim? Half of my missed questions were on logic games, so I'm gonna be working on getting that down to a science. Also, any advice on what outside materials I should be using to supplement the prep class (I'm defintely going to pick up the logic games bible)?


I always say a ten point increase is a good goal (although mine is 11)




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