October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby gdane » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:59 pm

northwood wrote:just took prep test 51

scoring breakdown

Section 1 (LR) -10
Section 2 ( RC) -9
Section 3 ( exp LLR) -8
Section 4 (LR) -8
Section 5 (LG)-5

Raw 68

Starting to notice that the first section of the test, regardless of what it is is one of my worst ones. Have never done a warm up before the test, but will start doing one for the next 2 prep tests ( this wednesday and saturday/ sunday ish). What do you guys do for a warm up? should I do 10 lr problems, read a passage, or do a game?



Stop doing experimentals. Focus on increasing your score first.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Day2Daze » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:15 pm

OK, I lost a week of LSAT prep in travelling etc. Best ideas on how to make that up? I was supposed to do tests 47/48/49 in that time and review 4 Bible chapters. I was thinking to do sets of tests as doubles, as in test 47/48 on Monday then 49/50 on Wednesday and then later in the month double up one more time. The only problem is I dont know how much that set up will affect the accuracy of my scores on those PT's. The last one I took I got a 172, since these are the last 10 I really want the scores to be accurate indicators for me.

Any ideas? Any tried this and noticed any effect on their scores??

Thanks :)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby northwood » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:20 pm

Dont do that... Just keep to your schedule, and use those tests as practice. If you want to do the tests, then do 1 of them on monday, and one on wednesday. 2 tests in 1 day is a bit insane.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:48 pm

You know, the best part of that 100 raw, 180 scaled @ PT 48 was -0 RC on a relatively modern test as a non-native speaker (born, studied, living in Turkey), as I said I ll have to see how I will do when I get to infamous passages like maize, riddled basins of attraction, talk-story etc but I am hopeful :)

Oh and btw, USA will prolly win the final game we are currently playing, so gz in advance all American people, it was our best performance in history so far (the final), so all is good. The only bad thing is, since USA proved it can win international tournaments with its B-Team (No Kobe, No LeBron) so we will probably never see them in tournaments again now, then again, I may not care, depending on how my cycle goes :P

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Day2Daze » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:54 pm

northwood wrote:Dont do that... Just keep to your schedule, and use those tests as practice. If you want to do the tests, then do 1 of them on monday, and one on wednesday. 2 tests in 1 day is a bit insane.


Yea..but I had different tests planned for those days and the days right after that. Im playing catch up :( I guess I could use them as practice... Grr, I wish there was a way to exorcise an extreme tendency to procrastinate.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby spece212 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:55 pm

The Logic Games section on PrepTest 32 just blew me away. 10 min into the test I was clueless as I could not get a decent setup for first two games. Any tips related to the setups of games 1 and 3?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:05 pm

spece212 wrote:The Logic Games section on PrepTest 32 just blew me away. 10 min into the test I was clueless as I could not get a decent setup for first two games. Any tips related to the setups of games 1 and 3?


For 1,

Prepare a table with days on top, and two rows marked "morning" and "afternoon" (6 boxes total) Put not laws for G on top of Monday and Wednesday; put not laws for O and R next to afternoon and note this down,

N(monday) -> H,I (tuesday) (No G)
N(tuesday) -> H,I (wednesday)

Thats the basic setup.

For 3,

R1 - TF or RT
R2 - F/R _min 2 _ R/F
R3 - Just note this on graph, put O/ on 1, \O on 5, and put not laws for O under other days if necessary.
R4 - Write L/H on 8th place on graph.
R5 - P>S, Write not law for S under 1st place and 7th for P (not 8th, since 8th place is already set)
R6 - O/S _ min 1_ S/O

So thats it.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby innuendo » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:44 pm

northwood wrote:just took prep test 51

scoring breakdown

Section 1 (LR) -10
Section 2 ( RC) -9
Section 3 ( exp LLR) -8
Section 4 (LR) -8
Section 5 (LG)-5

Raw 68

Starting to notice that the first section of the test, regardless of what it is is one of my worst ones. Have never done a warm up before the test, but will start doing one for the next 2 prep tests ( this wednesday and saturday/ sunday ish). What do you guys do for a warm up? should I do 10 lr problems, read a passage, or do a game?



I'm the same way. I usually just do a whole section that I've seen before. I think that practicing with 6 sections has helped my endurance a lot, additionally.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Gemini » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:32 pm

Hey all,

It's been forever since I posted. I did PT 36 and 37 in sections, and combined them together for 169, 167 respectively. Boo.

Did PT 38 today fully and got a 176/177. I'm not sure which because an item was removed from scoring. The scale had up to 100 correct but there were 101 questions, if you included the one removed from scoring. So the scale clearly was altered for this purpose, yes?

Breakdown:

LR1: -0
LG: -1
RC: -3
LR2: -2 (one in which I changed a correct answer to a wrong one, grrrr!)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby fosterp » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:21 pm

yeah they remove the question from the conversion chart, so your raw score is your raw score and is converted appropriately

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:44 pm

eit wrote:Wow, congratulations, you two!

Now be prepared to be disappointed with anything below a 177 on all your future prep tests!



spot on.

I did realize this when I was disappointed with a 170 several tests ago, and I had a good laugh at my own expense. Might as well! :P

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:47 pm

I.

HATE.

Pt48's curve.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:23 pm

Hannibal wrote:I.

HATE.

Pt48's curve.


*hugs* It's going to be ok. It apparently is pretty brutal, although I haven't taken it yet...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Pitcher » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:11 am

For warm up I do 1/2 easy games and 3-4 LR, simple stuff that you may have seen a while bacK.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Rikkugrrl » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:13 am

-5 on RC today! Geez it really does go down every time I take a test...okay, officially subscribing to the "practice makes perfect" theory. Now watch me jinx myself and get a -12 on Tuesday...

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby downing » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:34 am

I just finished PT35 with a raw score of 79, which calculates to a 163. Starting to panic about the Oct. 10th LSAT here. 163 is about the lowest I ever score, but the highest I can seem to score is about 168. I have yet to break the magical 170 mark.


Regarding the section breakdown-
SI, LR - 21/26 [-5]
SII, RC - 20/26 [-6]
SIII, LG - 16/23 (exceptionally bad this time around) [-7] I'm going to have to heavily review these games tonight.
SIV, LR - 22/26 [-4]

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:28 am

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Subject: Your October 09, 2010 LSAT Score


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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:45 am

Just took PT 47. 92/172. I'm ok with that....original goal was to break 170, and dream goal was a 175, but after yesterday's -2, it's a little disappointing.

Well, better luck next time.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby piccolittle » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:23 am

Ahhhhh I got my first 180 today!!!!!! SO excited... while I was taking the PT I was getting really nervous because there were all these repeating letters and literally no Bs... the ones I got wrong were in the last questions of the section, so I guess I have to work on staying focused. It was PT26 so not too special, but I was getting awfully nervous about this test so I needed something good today!

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jfb » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:03 pm

Has anyone been giving themselves less than 35 mins per section during prep tests? I usually don't have a lot of spare time per section, particularly in lg and rc, but is there value to doing this or is the risk, at least in may case, of sacrificing accuracy for speed to great?
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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby sgtgrumbles » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:07 pm

The Gentleman wrote:PT 50 screwed with me today. RC felt really difficult but LR was a joke IMHO. Anyone else feel this way?


Agree. I got -2 RC experimental, -4 RC (riddled basins!), -0 LR1, -1 LG, -0 LR2. Raw: 95. Scaled: 176.

I ran out of time on riddled basins, plus I was doing 34 minute sections, but I'm not sure that an extra two or three minutes would've helped much anyway...

This is the second time I've gotten -0 on both LR sections of a test, but these two were only my sixth and seventh LR -0s over 20 tests. So more than half of my perfect LR sections are pairs of perfect LR sections. Weird, right?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby sgtgrumbles » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:30 pm

jfb wrote:Has anyone been giving themselves less than 35 mins per section during prep tests? I usually don't have a lot of spare time per section, particularly in lg and rc, but is there value to doing this or is the risk, at least in may case, of sacrificing accuracy for speed to great?


Even though I almost always run out of time - though not by much - on at least one section, usually RC, I took my first test with 34 minute sections yesterday. A lot of people recommend it for the obvious reason of improving speed, but I also think it will artificially deflate my scores, so that the 176 I scored yesterday is a little better than a regular 176. I think this might help ensure that my test day score is more in line with my PT scores leading up to the big day. Essentially, if my PT average reflects my performance when rushed for time, hopefully any test day anxiety, nerves, etc. won't have a greater negative impact on my score than the reduced time I've been giving myself has had already.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby gdane » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:15 pm

pt 46 today. did very well on 3 sections, but lr 1 beat me. -13!!! lr 2 was -5 rc was -5 and lg was -4. that -13 really killed what couldve been a good score. quickly going over it i saw many stupid mistakes. have to fix these! have to read carefully! in any case the rest of the test went well and yet again i did well on lg. have to keep this up and put everything together.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Curry » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:22 pm

Whats the general consensus on trying Stem first/ Stimulus first. is it too late to switch?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby DasBoot » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:31 pm

curryinaninstant wrote:Whats the general consensus on trying Stem first/ Stimulus first. is it too late to switch?


Well, one of my books says reading the stem is a ridiculous waste of time, and another one of my books says reading the stimulus is a ridiculous waste of time. I spent the first half of my prep working off of the read the stimulus first method and found I was wasting time because I would read the stimulus, read the stem, rescan the stimulus to find the information I needed, then go after the answer choices.

Now I'm firmly in the read the stem first party. It takes about half a second to glance at and parse out the key words "weaken" "assumption" "flaw" "EXCEPT" and then you know what avenues of attack you'll need to go after the stimulus as you read it. My timing and overall score have increased since I switched, but it's going to be a matter of what works best for you.




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