October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby DasBoot » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:25 pm

Working on PT55 today. I was scoring the LR section and I had that growing feeling of anticipation as you work down your answers and each successive one is correct. For a brief moment I thought I was about to ace the section, when naturally, I got the last one wrong.

For LG, I'm finding that I'm relying less on diagrams through the whole thing. I've started getting a really good feel for the games after sketching up some rules and doing the first problem. After that I'm pulling the answers really quickly, or if I do have to look closely at the answers I know which variables have the most constraints and focus on answer choices involving them.

If I could see similar improvement in LR, I'd feel great.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lennonist » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:37 pm

Sandro777 wrote:taking PT 29 tonight. One of the last older PTs before I get into finishing out the rest of the ~10 or so more recent ones I have left. Also my last PT taken at night.


Took PT 29 today and did terribly (163). Could not get that mannequin game right (-3). I swear I am going to kill my neighbor for starting construction next door from 11am-4pm.

Anyway, doing PT 28 tomorrow, hoping to get back into the 170s.

How did you do?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby justadude55 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:19 pm

ecrew wrote:the 3 available (grouped by) series books are the new replacement for using the Kaplan Mastery. They are pulled from old test so they will not ruin the newer practice test. Having said that, the newer test are supposedly harder, so make sure you continue completing these also.


i disagree about the newer tests being harder. the only diff is the logical reasoning not having a twofer, and the double passages in RC. logic games are a bit harder, but only because the courses and tutors have so completely broken down how to do the different types of games, they were no longer examining what LSAC probably was hoping to examine.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Sandro » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:21 pm

lennonist wrote:
Sandro777 wrote:taking PT 29 tonight. One of the last older PTs before I get into finishing out the rest of the ~10 or so more recent ones I have left. Also my last PT taken at night.


Took PT 29 today and did terribly (163). Could not get that mannequin game right (-3). I swear I am going to kill my neighbor for starting construction next door from 11am-4pm.

Anyway, doing PT 28 tomorrow, hoping to get back into the 170s.

How did you do?


Yea missed the entire mannequin game.... -11 LG. Started the test with a -1 LR (didnt see the word LEAST) and -3 RC - followed it up with the -11 LG and a whopping -8 final LR section. 163 . I dont think 20s and 30s PTs are useful for predicting scores for me because half the time I end up with -10+ LG... newer ones I do much better.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lennonist » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:27 pm

Sandro777 wrote:
lennonist wrote:
Sandro777 wrote:taking PT 29 tonight. One of the last older PTs before I get into finishing out the rest of the ~10 or so more recent ones I have left. Also my last PT taken at night.


Took PT 29 today and did terribly (163). Could not get that mannequin game right (-3). I swear I am going to kill my neighbor for starting construction next door from 11am-4pm.

Anyway, doing PT 28 tomorrow, hoping to get back into the 170s.

How did you do?


Yea missed the entire mannequin game.... -11 LG. Started the test with a -1 LR (didnt see the word LEAST) and -3 RC - followed it up with the -11 LG and a whopping -8 final LR section. 163 . I dont think 20s and 30s PTs are useful for predicting scores for me because half the time I end up with -10+ LG... newer ones I do much better.


Good job on the first LR. I improved on games through practice. I find 1990s games harder. I used to always get -6 on them, now I get mad when I get -1 (today's -4 was not representative at all!). Today's nightmare was (-5LR, -7RC, -4LG, -7LR). Worst score in months. I'm taking a couple of more 20s PTs and then doing a 41-60 marathon every day. I took them in may and need to make sure I forget them thoroughly.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Sandro » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:29 pm

Yea im taking 43 tomorrow and from now until Oct 9 its only the more recent ones. Nothing in the 30s. Hopefully I can easily pickup the transition in LR and RC that happens in the recent tests.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:56 pm

I'm starting the 40's on Monday and aiming for 3 a week until test day. I've been doing well on the 20 and 30's with LG being my worst section, so sounds like I should see improvement?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby xqhp82 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:08 am

I have no idea why my scores have been so inconsistent lately...after a full week of consistently low score (avg 162) i decided to take a break, and ever since I resumed my PT routine from the break my scores have been WILD (171, 161, 169, 166, 160). and the most recent PT is actually the worst PT I've ever done (it's Superprep C). Very discouraging....

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Adjudicator » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:42 am

I just did the LG section from PT28. Does anyone else think that one was pretty tough? :? I got to the game with the researchers and the languages and it must have taken me 3+ minutes just to figure out how to proceed with it. They don't give you any specifics to start with so you have to figure out the possible distributions by yourself.

I still finished on time, with about 3 minutes left, and somehow missed 1 in the final game. Again, I can't seem to complete a whole LG section without one mindless mistake; I don't know why I missed that problem because when I went back and looked at it, the answer that I chose could be ruled out in 2 seconds. :(

But, on the plus side, I found this section more difficult than the recent PTs I've been doing and I still managed my time well.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:56 am

The researchers/languages one was pretty terrible. I saw that, saved it for last, then didn't finish.

Re: mindless mistakes- we're asking our brains to perform at high levels for extended periods...it's reasonable they'll be a little slip here and again. Don't take missing one question too hard.

Also, this thread has (for the most part highly) unreasonable expectations. A 164 is generally 90th percentile; sane people would be happy with that :-)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Adjudicator » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:57 am

Eugenie Danglars wrote:The researchers/languages one was pretty terrible. I saw that, saved it for last, then didn't finish.

Re: mindless mistakes- we're asking our brains to perform at high levels for extended periods...it's reasonable they'll be a little slip here and again. Don't take missing one question too hard.

Also, this thread has (for the most part highly) unreasonable expectations. A 164 is generally 90th percentile; sane people would be happy with that :-)


I must not be sane. :twisted:

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:13 am

Eh, I cried last year when I got a B on a paper, no lie. For me it's like, 170-180 = A, 160-169 = B, below 160 = F. And I feel like I might end up with a 160's score, which would be GREAT but I can't make myself feel cheerful about that prospect.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby gdane » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:19 am

eit wrote:Eh, I cried last year when I got a B on a paper, no lie. For me it's like, 170-180 = A, 160-169 = B, below 160 = F. And I feel like I might end up with a 160's score, which would be GREAT but I can't make myself feel cheerful about that prospect.


I <3 you. :lol:

Relax. Lord. You're scoring very highly very consistently. Thats a great sign. I say that you'll get a 176.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Adjudicator » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:23 am

gdane5 wrote:
eit wrote:Eh, I cried last year when I got a B on a paper, no lie. For me it's like, 170-180 = A, 160-169 = B, below 160 = F. And I feel like I might end up with a 160's score, which would be GREAT but I can't make myself feel cheerful about that prospect.


I <3 you. :lol:

Relax. Lord. You're scoring very highly very consistently. Thats a great sign. I say that you'll get a 176.


My last 5 PTs go 177, 175, 177, 179, 177... lol. 177 is the mean, the mode, and the median so far. If I don't get at least 175 on the October test, I'm going to be quite disappointed.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:32 am

gdane5 wrote:
eit wrote:Eh, I cried last year when I got a B on a paper, no lie. For me it's like, 170-180 = A, 160-169 = B, below 160 = F. And I feel like I might end up with a 160's score, which would be GREAT but I can't make myself feel cheerful about that prospect.


I <3 you. :lol:

Relax. Lord. You're scoring very highly very consistently. Thats a great sign. I say that you'll get a 176.


I bombed an LR today :(. -4.

But thank you for the support. I'm always like this before tests/papers/etc. It's like this weird convinced I'm not going to do very well coupled with a but I MIGHT do well and secretly really hoping to do well but then feeling all OMG IF I DON'T DO WELL I'LL BE SO UPSET SO DON'T EXPECT TO DO WELL kind of inner monologue that goes on and on amen.

Also whoever was mentioning the researchers/languages game... is that the one with Swahili, Yorumba, another language starting with T and Rundi? Cause you just have to make the deduction that the historian, paleontologist and linguist all have to do Yorumba (or whatever the Y one is), and from there you realize the geologist can't do Rundi, and so the geologist is either S, or ST, and the historian is either YS, or YST, and the paleotologist and linguist are either Y, YS, or YT.

I think I've done that game like 3 times though, so maybe it wasn't as obvious first try. I think the first set up bit is hard.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Adjudicator » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:33 am

eit wrote:
gdane5 wrote:
eit wrote:Eh, I cried last year when I got a B on a paper, no lie. For me it's like, 170-180 = A, 160-169 = B, below 160 = F. And I feel like I might end up with a 160's score, which would be GREAT but I can't make myself feel cheerful about that prospect.


I <3 you. :lol:

Relax. Lord. You're scoring very highly very consistently. Thats a great sign. I say that you'll get a 176.


I bombed an LR today :(. -4.

But thank you for the support. I'm always like this before tests/papers/etc. It's like this weird convinced I'm not going to do very well coupled with a but I MIGHT do well and secretly really hoping to do well but then feeling all OMG IF I DON'T DO WELL I'LL BE SO UPSET SO DON'T EXPECT TO DO WELL kind of inner monologue that goes on and on amen.

Also whoever was mentioning the researchers/languages game... is that the one with Swahili, Yorumba, another language starting with T and Rundi? Cause you just have to make the deduction that the historian, paleontologist and linguist all have to do Yorumba (or whatever the Y one is), and from there you realize the geologist can't do Rundi, and so the geologist is either S, or ST, and the historian is either YS, or YST, and the paleotologist and linguist are either Y, YS, or YT.

I think I've done that game like 3 times though, so maybe it wasn't as obvious first try. I think the first set up bit is hard.


Yeah, I figured all of that out eventually and aced it, but it took me a good couple of minutes to figure all of that out. :|

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby northwood » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:34 am

So i went through my answers for prep test 46 tonite. Realized that for the vast majority of them I was able to narrow it down to 2 choices, hemmed and hawed over them, wrote down the correct answer, then changed my mind and picked the wrong one. ( I even put down gut next to the answer that I erased)

Would have had a more respectable score, but wow.. what an eye opener!!
Is this because of taking a week off from prep tests ( and 3 days off entireley) and spending most of the time back on RC? OR did I lose a lot of skill?

Will take my next prep test in a couple of days ( labor day or sunday) after reading through the LRB tomorrow

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby aesis » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:37 am

Finished my last unfinished section of PT 23 tonight.
MONSTER CURVE = 92 RAW --> 177? Wow.

Tonight, got back to my target range with PT 43. SO RELIEVED.
LG -0, LR -4, -0, RC -3. 94 Raw, 175 scaled.

That -4 was a string from 15-18, OUCH. What happened? And did anyone else think RC was hard, too?

Nice to be back up from the 172s.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Sandro » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:42 pm

Taking PT 43 today. Hopefully nobody is at Borders and are all watching College Football .... and the knitting club doesnt show up next to me again.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby NonTradHealthLaw » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:56 pm

Best LR section ever (PT#32 sect 4) with a -1! Booyah!

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jfb » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:43 pm

sooo I'm scoring in a range that I would be more than happy with, last four pts were 174 176 174 173 and I'm sort of at a point now where I wish test day would just come. Anyone else feeling like that?? Obviously I will milk this last month for what its worth, but I''m sort of feelin like man, lets just get this over with before I get totally burned out.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:51 pm

jfb wrote:sooo I'm scoring in a range that I would be more than happy with, last four pts were 174 176 174 173 and I'm sort of at a point now where I wish test day would just come. Anyone else feeling like that?? Obviously I will milk this last month for what its worth, but I''m sort of feelin like man, lets just get this over with before I get totally burned out.


Yes. Although I'm also getting more nervous.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jfb » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:55 pm

eit wrote:
jfb wrote:sooo I'm scoring in a range that I would be more than happy with, last four pts were 174 176 174 173 and I'm sort of at a point now where I wish test day would just come. Anyone else feeling like that?? Obviously I will milk this last month for what its worth, but I''m sort of feelin like man, lets just get this over with before I get totally burned out.


Yes. Although I'm also getting more nervous.



as am I. I feel like this last month is going to be a lot of conquering the mental aspects of prepping for the test: trying not to get to caught up in hypothetical worst/best case scenerios, etc.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Sandro » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:29 pm

I started taking PT 43 at borders. DIdnt have an answer sheet. As soon as I started a book signing started. The music was also unusually loud today. Halfway through section 1 i gave up - while it may some way help in building up resistance to distractions, there is no way testing under extremely distracting conditions will help me get ready for the actual LSAT test itself. Say I slowly build up endurance over the next month so that I could take the LSAT in an open air biplane - I still would be missing the same amount of questions.....

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby northwood » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:34 pm

finished re reading LRB after the diaster that was the LR on prep test 46. Confidence is absolutely gone. REally hope that this was a fluke, and not a sign of whats to come. Has this happened to anyone else?

will be taking prep test 56 ( its the next one I randomly took out of my test bag this am) tomorrow morning. I better doiminate it




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