October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:09 am

So at exactly which PT does this "enhanced LR & RC" come into play?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Feeny » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:08 am

TUP wrote:
Feeny wrote:LG 41 (-5).

First three games were simple enough, felt good and confident heading into game 4. Then they decide to throw in a circular linear game, which hasn't appeared since the H.W. Bush administration, when the Blue Jays and Twins were good baseball teams. Those sadists! I guess it could be worse though. I could have been one of those unlucky souls to have this on a real test.

Anybody tried setting this game up like a standard linear game, disregarding the circular aspect?


I know this post is a few days old now, but I have to point out that the Twins are leading their division even though their MVP first baseman has been out for months.


Nice catch. Guess I should've said when the Blue Jays and Twins were World Series winning teams.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:03 pm

I just photocopied the games sections from PT 11-PT 38. Boring as hell. Tomorrow it's the newer PTs. And I'm going to get the passport photo type picture done for my ticket (Canadian - instead of fingerprints, we get to bring a photo in), and printer paper to print out the earlier PT games sections I bought from Cambridge tomorrow.

Feeling a bit more organized, which is a plus.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby judgekozinski » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:50 pm

This is my third update to this forum. Just got a 162 on PT 45, so excited! This is a long way from my original 151. I felt the games were fairly simple and finished with 5 minutes left after doing them, much to my surprise. Still missed 3 though.

Reading comp is still killing me! :evil: I really wish I could do this section quickly and efficiently, any tips you might have that helped you progress your skills in the section is welcomed!

Also, does anybody know what they do with removed questions? Is that a credit to you or nothing at all?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jarv1506 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:54 pm

I've taken 15 PT's now and I'm averaging in the 169-172 range. I can see a lot of consistency in where I'm having problems. I'm killing RC and LG, but I'm having problems with LR, especially the second section. It never fails that my 2nd LR will look great until I'll cluster 4-5 wrong answers usually between questions 17-23. I've read that these are supposed to be the hardest questions, but my problem seems to be more one of focus than anything else. When I go over the questions I am alarmed at how I seem to lose focus, drop the ball, and miss questions I know I should get. Does anyone have any suggestions for maintaining focus through the latter portions of LR2? I don't do nearly as bad in the later parts of LR1, but the second section is KILLING ME :evil: ! I feel like I can get consistent scores in the mid 170's and I'm looking for any tips that can put me over the top.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Adjudicator » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:09 am

Wow, I just did PT45's LG section and it was the easiest one I've ever seen. Now I get why people say that LG was easiest in the 40's. I finished that section in 25 minutes and scored perfect.

I haven't done PT50-60 yet and I'm planning to do them all before the October test. I've scored in the 175-180 range on my last few PTs but they were in the PT20-30 range. I haven't done many of the more recent tests. So we'll see.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby amkid100 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:22 am

when i began reviewing for my retake a couple of weeks ago, i was ecstatic with anything over a 170. i guess my standards have been considerably upped - just got a 174 on pt. 47 and i'm really peeved by it. gotta cut down on those careless mistakes.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby sgtgrumbles » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:13 am

PT 42 results: -2 LR (experimental), -0 LG, -1 LR, -1 RC, -2 LR. Raw: 96. Scaled: 177.

The experimental section was the last of the four sections from PT 25 I've used as experimentals. Raw: 94. Scaled: 175.

Barely finished LG because on a sequencing game I initially misinterpreted "has a higher number than" as "comes before" instead of "comes after" and had to re-diagram and redo a couple problems.

One of my -2 on LR2 was me stupidly second-guessing myself on one of the easiest, earliest problems (#7; chose D instead of E).

Finished RC again, this time with a minute or two to spare. I'm happy with my new RC strategy of barely annotating, if at all. I use very few symbols/notes: AO = author opinion, strong = strong wording, conc. = concession made by the author, crits. = some critics or criticisms, " = quote. I circle defined terms, dates, names, etc. I heavily underline words or phrases that I think may appear in a question ("Which of the following would be the best substitute for the word 'x' in line 22?" etc.).

Very happy with this score, obviously.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby StrictlyLiable » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:21 am

nullisecundus wrote:So at exactly which PT does this "enhanced LR & RC" come into play?



Also curious.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lparker » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:09 am

sgtgrumbles wrote:One of my -2 on LR2 was me stupidly second-guessing myself on one of the easiest, earliest problems (#7; chose D instead of E).


I took that PT42 last night too. And, I missed #7 by choosing D too! I hate when I miss any of the first ten questions, and it never fails that my misses are usually in the 1-10 or 24-26s. Do you try to get through the first 10 quickly? I do, and I think that's part of why I sometimes miss there.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby sgtgrumbles » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:18 am

lparker wrote:I took that PT42 last night too. And, I missed #7 by choosing D too! I hate when I miss any of the first ten questions, and it never fails that my misses are usually in the 1-10 or 24-26s. Do you try to get through the first 10 quickly? I do, and I think that's part of why I sometimes miss there.


Well at least someone else made that mistake, too. This was the first time I missed one of the first 10 questions in quite a while. Yeah, I try to go through them pretty quickly, but generally I don't have a problem doing that. The author of one of the "How I got a 180" articles said that s/he tried to always do the first 10 LR problems in 10 minutes, then, after succeeding in that, moved on to doing the first 15 in 15, then the first 20 in 20, sometimes even all 25 in 25. I can usually manage 10 in 10 and sometimes 15 in 15.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lparker » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:29 am

sgtgrumbles wrote:Well at least someone else made that mistake, too. This was the first time I missed one of the first 10 questions in quite a while. Yeah, I try to go through them pretty quickly, but generally I don't have a problem doing that. The author of one of the "How I got a 180" articles said that s/he tried to always do the first 10 LR problems in 10 minutes, then, after succeeding in that, moved on to doing the first 15 in 15, then the first 20 in 20, sometimes even all 25 in 25. I can usually manage 10 in 10 and sometimes 15 in 15.


I read that too. I do like the first 10 in 10 min. strategy. I just need to make sure I stay away from the sucker choices in the rush.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:52 pm

I checked out my testing center today. I think I might have had my GRS 250 exam in there in first year.

It's not little desks like I feared (we couldn't find the light switch lol so we viewed it all from the lights on the risers). The chairs are kind of spinny which is annoying. And there's not much knee space. But there shouldn't be a problem with having both the test paper and the answer sheet on the table at the same time, so that's good.

However last night I had a dream that the LSAT was that day, like, at night, and I was waiting all day for it to start and then at 4.30 or something I was like OH NO I NEVER FILLED IN MY ADMISSION TICKET and then I had to ge ta ride home and start frantically filling in my ticket but it was really weird and it was more like reading comprehension? It was like 5 pages of a story you had to read and I was just skimming through really quickly and I kept checking boxes and this official guy was like "DON'T CHECK THAT" and he'd give me a new form.

But it's all good. I bought an eraser for the exam, as well as fancy blue pencils. I'm going to try some of them out now on my prep test of the day, #32.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby brickman » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:42 pm

sgtgrumbles wrote:
lparker wrote:I took that PT42 last night too. And, I missed #7 by choosing D too! I hate when I miss any of the first ten questions, and it never fails that my misses are usually in the 1-10 or 24-26s. Do you try to get through the first 10 quickly? I do, and I think that's part of why I sometimes miss there.


Well at least someone else made that mistake, too. This was the first time I missed one of the first 10 questions in quite a while. Yeah, I try to go through them pretty quickly, but generally I don't have a problem doing that. The author of one of the "How I got a 180" articles said that s/he tried to always do the first 10 LR problems in 10 minutes, then, after succeeding in that, moved on to doing the first 15 in 15, then the first 20 in 20, sometimes even all 25 in 25. I can usually manage 10 in 10 and sometimes 15 in 15.


gettin' pro.

I think I nailed 46 today, but we'll see! (in about 4 hours)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby am060459 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:08 pm

brickman wrote:gettin' pro.

I think I nailed 46 today, but we'll see! (in about 4 hours)


patiently waiting......

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:15 pm

I'm taking supeprep C tonight. I'm hoping I can keep up my upward trend and go higher than 174 :)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Dripworx » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:08 pm

stuck on 167 for the past 3 tests ive taken... Ill miss -8 on RC on the first test, then miss -3 on RC the next test and off set with a shitty LR section... idk whats happening but i cant break the wall. I hope for a breakthrough in LR in the upcoming tests.

Im consistently finishing with at least 5 min left on the clock, on all sections but im not trying to rush at all. dont know if anyone else has this problem... If i try to slow down, i realllllly slow down and miss the timing. so i feel like its a catch on both ends. and cant see a significant improvement when i do slow down anyways. :(

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:11 pm

So. I just scored a 180 on Prep Test #32. -1LR, -0RC, -0LG, -0LR.

I know it's only a 30's test, but STILL I am pretty excited. And I so nearly messed up quite a few times in RC, and nearly changed wrong answers to right answers, and changed a wrong answer to a right answer in LR yay.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby sgtgrumbles » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:50 pm

eit wrote:So. I just scored a 180 on Prep Test #32. -1LR, -0RC, -0LG, -0LR.

I know it's only a 30's test, but STILL I am pretty excited. And I so nearly messed up quite a few times in RC, and nearly changed wrong answers to right answers, and changed a wrong answer to a right answer in LR yay.


Big congrats. I want mine now.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby brickman » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:01 pm

eit wrote:So. I just scored a 180 on Prep Test #32. -1LR, -0RC, -0LG, -0LR.

I know it's only a 30's test, but STILL I am pretty excited. And I so nearly messed up quite a few times in RC, and nearly changed wrong answers to right answers, and changed a wrong answer to a right answer in LR yay.


lol, so good.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:14 pm

Thanks, guys!

Just be patient - you'll get there! This was my first prep test in nearly a week, with just section work during the week - maybe a break will help if you're getting tired.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Curry » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:33 pm

Dripworx wrote:stuck on 167 for the past 3 tests ive taken... Ill miss -8 on RC on the first test, then miss -3 on RC the next test and off set with a shitty LR section... idk whats happening but i cant break the wall. I hope for a breakthrough in LR in the upcoming tests.

Im consistently finishing with at least 5 min left on the clock, on all sections but im not trying to rush at all. dont know if anyone else has this problem... If i try to slow down, i realllllly slow down and miss the timing. so i feel like its a catch on both ends. and cant see a significant improvement when i do slow down anyways. :(


I'm hitting the same wall as you. Except LR is killing me all of a sudden. I used to miss 1 or 2 per section. Now its missing 4 or 5. Its insane.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:54 pm

Ok, so i'm just about to leave work but I am feeling extremely tired. Do I do the originally planned superprep C tonight, or do I wait and do it before work tomorrow morning? I'm also scheduled to take a kaplan proctored lsat preptest saturday morning.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lamentable » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:20 pm

Has anyone taken PT 46? I have a question from S2 Q11. It is about popular career advice being wrong.

The correct answer, A, talks about two groups. Are the two groups employers and managers? If so isn't it a reasonable assumption that those two are synonymous?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby brickman » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:32 pm

am060459 wrote:
brickman wrote:gettin' pro.

I think I nailed 46 today, but we'll see! (in about 4 hours)


patiently waiting......


Well, good news is that I did my best yet in terms of raw score, -8, which works out to a disappointing 171. Breakdown is (-4 RC, -3 LR, -1 LR, -0 LG). 3 out of the 4 wrong in RC were dumb mistakes easy enough to rectify, no problem in the overall system. The -3 in LR mostly attributed to being too hasty, upon review, everything made sense.

So while I'm not where I want to be, it is nice to know that I'm a hell of a lot better off than I was when I originally prepared for this test nearly two years ago. (For some reference, my initial cold diagnostic was a 148!)

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