October 2010 Test Prep

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:07 pm

Congrats on breaking 170!

Last night I dreamt that I was going to be taking the LSAT tomorrow, they'd bumped it up a bit and Iw as like "whoa I still had like 14 PTs to take! Oh well!". I never actually got to the LSAT though, I couldn't seem to get going and leave my house. Getting dressed in particular seemed difficult, I remember trying to put on these weird striped pants "for luck." Lol. I have no striped pants in actuality or I might have worn those to the real test just as a pre-caution.

Anyone else picked out their test day outfit yet? I'm wearing jeans, sneakers, a tank top, a t-shirt, maybe a long sleeved shirt, and a sweatshirt (no hood). I heard layers is good for temperature control (i.e. very cold or too hot or something, so you can strip on and off as needed.)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:09 pm

Denim overalls over bare hairy chest.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby jfb » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:13 pm

eit wrote:Congrats on breaking 170!

Last night I dreamt that I was going to be taking the LSAT tomorrow, they'd bumped it up a bit and Iw as like "whoa I still had like 14 PTs to take! Oh well!". I never actually got to the LSAT though, I couldn't seem to get going and leave my house. Getting dressed in particular seemed difficult, I remember trying to put on these weird striped pants "for luck." Lol. I have no striped pants in actuality or I might have worn those to the real test just as a pre-caution.

Anyone else picked out their test day outfit yet? I'm wearing jeans, sneakers, a tank top, a t-shirt, maybe a long sleeved shirt, and a sweatshirt (no hood). I heard layers is good for temperature control (i.e. very cold or too hot or something, so you can strip on and off as needed.)


I was actually thinking about test day outfit last night. I was thinking I would wear the same thing I wore last time I took it because I'll be taking it in the same building and was very comfortable. Then I realized, shit... that was February, this will be October... then I thought, maybe I'll just figure it out the night before, and that's where I left it.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby leemalk » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:43 pm

Took PT 28 and got a 160 :(

It was my first PT since my diagnostic of 150, so at least there was some improvement. My goal is to get in the 170's.
-11 on the first section, LR, mainly due to me moving way too slowly on the first few questions and having no time at the end, plus putting way too much pressure on myself.
-5 on LG with 5 stupid mistakes, mainly due to misreading the rules.
-6 on LR2 (better than -11 at least)
-7 on RC which is usually one of my stronger points. Not today I guess.

I'll try another tomorrow. I think I just need to get used to taking PT's full length and under timed conditions now and maybe that will eliminate some of the anxiety.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby lamentable » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:07 pm

leemalk wrote:Took PT 28 and got a 160 :(

It was my first PT since my diagnostic of 150, so at least there was some improvement. My goal is to get in the 170's.
-11 on the first section, LR, mainly due to me moving way too slowly on the first few questions and having no time at the end, plus putting way too much pressure on myself.
-5 on LG with 5 stupid mistakes, mainly due to misreading the rules.
-6 on LR2 (better than -11 at least)
-7 on RC which is usually one of my stronger points. Not today I guess.

I'll try another tomorrow. I think I just need to get used to taking PT's full length and under timed conditions now and maybe that will eliminate some of the anxiety.



A ten point jump is nothing to scoff at. Feel encouraged about how far you've come. Keep it up!

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby LLB2JD » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:19 pm

lamentable wrote:
leemalk wrote:Took PT 28 and got a 160 :(

It was my first PT since my diagnostic of 150, so at least there was some improvement. My goal is to get in the 170's.
-11 on the first section, LR, mainly due to me moving way too slowly on the first few questions and having no time at the end, plus putting way too much pressure on myself.
-5 on LG with 5 stupid mistakes, mainly due to misreading the rules.
-6 on LR2 (better than -11 at least)
-7 on RC which is usually one of my stronger points. Not today I guess.

I'll try another tomorrow. I think I just need to get used to taking PT's full length and under timed conditions now and maybe that will eliminate some of the anxiety.



A ten point jump is nothing to scoff at. Feel encouraged about how far you've come. Keep it up!


+1. It is a major improvement.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:32 pm

Got a 176 on PT 46, which I would be pretty stoked about. Had a bad RC (-3, one of them was stupid), but I had -2 LR overall and -0 LG. Wow that just made me realize that scale is pretty damn harsh. LGs were pretty easy I suppose other than the tape game.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Gemini » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:51 pm

Hit 172 on PT 30! OMG I'm so excited to see that my 169 isn't a fluke! Untimed, only got a 174 but that's because I had no patience by the end of the night to go over the RC section.

RC is my worst section. My breakdown was as follows:

LG:-1
LR: -1
RC: -6!
LR: -4

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Gemini » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:56 pm

By the way, QUESTION:

How do you guys work in the experimental? Do you choose where to place it? Or do you scramble up the sections?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby NJcollegestudent » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:59 pm

I figured i might post my progress if the community does not mind.

On the Logic Games from when i started i was getting about -12 or -13. After using the bibles, and becoming acclimated to the games, and using the strategies i have cut it essentially in half and am getting about 4 or 5 wrong per section.

On the Logical Reasoning when i began i was easily getting anywhere from 10 to 15 wrong per section. Using the bible and underlining in the section to note the conclusion and arguments and attack them helped, as well as understanding what presupposing what it seeks to establish helped me out. I have been getting about 8 or 9 wrong per section, with the occasional -10 or -11 showing up on some sections.

On Reading Comprehension i have drastically improved from about 10-15 wrong to about 7 or 8 per section consistently. I did not use the bible for this section, as i saw that the more i was exposed to these sections that i was lowering my totals down to the 7 or 8.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby 3|ink » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:00 pm

Gemini Hopeful wrote:By the way, QUESTION:

How do you guys work in the experimental? Do you choose where to place it? Or do you scramble up the sections?


I always do it first. For me, the whole point of the experimental is stamina. The score means that much more if it was achieved after the unscored section. Besides, you're going to know which one the experimental is no matter what. Might as well get it out of the way right away.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Jack Smirks » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:25 pm

Gemini Hopeful wrote:By the way, QUESTION:

How do you guys work in the experimental? Do you choose where to place it? Or do you scramble up the sections?

I always put a games section in between sections 1 and 2 of the PT.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby NonTradHealthLaw » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:31 pm

Scored a disappointing 167 today on whatever section starts the 3rd "10 more" series. Eff you, busy 14-hours per day work week! Happy my aggregated experimentals from #13 garnered a 170. Reinforced the need to take Th-Fri off in advance of Oct 9. This old brain needs sleep to thrive!

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby northwood » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:18 pm

Took prep test 45
scoring summary:
Section1 (Exp Rc)-8
section 2 LR-9
section 3 RC (counted)-13
Section 4 LG -7
Section 5 LR-5
total raw score 66/ 156

Attemtped a new strategy on section 1. used symbols and underlining instead of writing notes on the side. Found to have more time to answer the questions, and made going back through the passage easier and quicker.
LG was difficult, especially the 3rd and 4th game- photo album game, and countries export.. ( did the first 2 in a combined time of 12 minutes, getting a 12/12.) Realized with 8 minutes left that I miss read the countries export game and did not use all elements. Had difficulty making deductions ( why ) and understanding the rules for the picture game.

Knocking on the 160's door!!

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Anaconda » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:33 pm

Gemini Hopeful wrote:Hit 172 on PT 30! OMG I'm so excited to see that my 169 isn't a fluke! Untimed, only got a 174 but that's because I had no patience by the end of the night to go over the RC section.

RC is my worst section. My breakdown was as follows:

LG:-1
LR: -1
RC: -6!
LR: -4


Geez you're absolutely kicking ass!

On the topic of 5 section PTs, when do you guys recommend this should begin to be the norm for October test-takers? I'm at the point where timing is significantly hindering my potential score (PT average is 160, untimed re-do average is around a 168). Should I just start adding a 5th section now?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Gemini » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:48 pm

Anaconda wrote:
Gemini Hopeful wrote:Hit 172 on PT 30! OMG I'm so excited to see that my 169 isn't a fluke! Untimed, only got a 174 but that's because I had no patience by the end of the night to go over the RC section.

RC is my worst section. My breakdown was as follows:

LG:-1
LR: -1
RC: -6!
LR: -4


Geez you're absolutely kicking ass!

On the topic of 5 section PTs, when do you guys recommend this should begin to be the norm for October test-takers? I'm at the point where timing is significantly hindering my potential score (PT average is 160, untimed re-do average is around a 168). Should I just start adding a 5th section now?


YES add a fifth section as soon as possible. Personally, it's only feasible for me to add one when I have time (weekends only) but any extra experience helps.

Anaconda, maybe you can take small timed sections. Give yourself 8min45sec for one game, one RC passage. Then review it. Then do it again. I can't tell you how many many times I checked over a game and found a HUGE inference which would've made the game easier.

Can't really give anyone advice on RC as I'm not good enough there. Eit would definitely know more as she's the English major. :)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hannibal » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:51 pm

I think Logic Games made me way better at Sudoku

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby mynjb26 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:54 am

Oh my I am a bit excited right now, after TWO DAYS of hardcore studying and implementing your ideas (thank you to all of you who have been helpful) I have jumped 12 points!!! From 147 to 159...170 here I come!!! :-)

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby am060459 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:12 am

mynjb26 wrote:Oh my I am a bit excited right now, after TWO DAYS of hardcore studying and implementing your ideas (thank you to all of you who have been helpful) I have jumped 12 points!!! From 147 to 159...170 here I come!!! :-)


wow. congrats.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby mynjb26 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:15 am

:-) Thank you!!

am060459 wrote:
mynjb26 wrote:Oh my I am a bit excited right now, after TWO DAYS of hardcore studying and implementing your ideas (thank you to all of you who have been helpful) I have jumped 12 points!!! From 147 to 159...170 here I come!!! :-)


wow. congrats.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Kafka » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:07 am

eit wrote:Anyone else picked out their test day outfit yet?


sweater, jeans, shirt underneath so i can take off sweater if hot. sneakers.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Nulli Secundus » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:39 am

I just recently started adding experimentals to my tests, but I do the placement like this:

- Run the tumbling dice app on my phone.
- The result in a base of 4 is the placement of the experimental.

(e.g. Result is 10, 10 is 2 in 4 base, so experimental goes to 2nd slot)

Btw, do you people take the 15 min break in 5 section tests?

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Hedwig » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:49 am

I do my experimental first. For me, putting in the experimental is more about stamina than marks, so I throw it in first and then the other sections are after so that they're taken after the stress of +1 section.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby WonkyPanda » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:59 am

Might as well start chiming in this thread since LSAT madness has taken over and my real friends think I am probably dead because they haven't heard of me in a week. Took PT 43 today and got a 166 :) Break down was: LG -1, RC -6, LR -10. RC is the one that gets me the most flustered and I just don't know why. I've always been a great reader but something about RC throws me off. To be perfectly honest, I have paid very little attention to RC and have just recently began to look into developing strategies. I hope that in time I can knock a good 2-3 off of that and have more room to work with a tough LG or LR section.

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Re: October 2010 Test Prep

Postby Feeny » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:46 am

-0 on PT 39 LG section.

Feels good after hovering around -3/4 for most of the 30s PTs, feels especially good compared to my performance on LG on the real thing in June 2009 (-14). Protip: don't give yourself ANY extra time during practice tests. Don't think that you will just work a little faster on the real thing. That lack of self-discipline destroyed me on LG. Lesson learned.




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