What do I need? June LSAT prep

wehman
Posts: 38
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:08 am

What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby wehman » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:16 am

Hi Everyone,

I have gone pithypike's thread and I was just curious if anyone could lay out for me what exactly they recommend for my studying process. I will be studying from March 14th until the exam. I know that I'll need the prep tests and that the power score bibles are recommended but I know there are sites like traciela and what not and I was just curious what I needed to make the reviewing of the games easy.

Basically it's been a while since I ready pithypikes review and was curious if any of you who have extra time on their hands could remind me my process of what I do when I get the materials, i.e. I get the 10 prep tests and then cut the games out and figure out what type of game you are cutting out based upon something from traciela and then find what type of game it is you are doing from powerscores chapters? I just need a little help formulating a study schedule.

Thanks and let the count down until June LSATs begin

User avatar
typ3
Posts: 1362
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:04 am

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby typ3 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:19 am

You need,


The PowerScore Bibles

Kaplan Mastery Book

And All the PT's




The Kap mastery book sorts Q's from PT's 1-30 or so by type.

Do the chapters in the Pscore book and then do all the problems in Kaplan Mastery that match that type.

Move on to PT's once you've done all of the Mastery Book and Bibles.

Shrimps
Posts: 271
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:04 pm

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby Shrimps » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:29 pm

You'll have exactly 12 weeks and almost 60 PT's

Spend the first 1-2 weeks doing the Powerscore bibles and reading a few general interest books on logic (not hugely useful, but may be helpful - "Logic Made Easy" by Bennett, "Informal Logic - A Pragmatic Approach" and/or "Fundamentals of Critical Argumentation" by Walton, "A Rulebook for Arguments" by Weston. The first few chapters of introductory logic textbooks may also be helpful, if you have access to them at the library.

If you have lots of time and some spare money, next you can get the 'Grouped by Type' books (available on Amazon) for about $80 combined. There's a representative from the company that publishes these books on this forum. They group all LR questions and logic games by type from PT's 1-20 (oldies but goodies, though many of the game types will not be hugely relevant). Do them all in order to develop speed and mechanical skills for each game type.

After that you'll have over 40 PT's (21-59, Superprep, June 2007) and about 8 weeks left. You can do a PT daily if you want to.

In addition to the books above I'd recommend Powerscore's "Ultimate Setups Guide" which explains the setups for all older logic games - they'll help you set up (duh) logic games if you're struggling with it. There are also Kaplan's explanations to all the test questions from PT1 to at least PT57 floating around the Internet: I have NO idea if they're supposed to be free or not. Some are available for free download on their own site.

Thi is only if you have lots of free time and can dedicate a considerable chunk of your day to LSAT (which you should - this is the most important day in youre life if you want to become a lawyer with a decent firm ).

wehman
Posts: 38
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:08 am

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby wehman » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:26 pm

hey thanks a lot for the feedback. I am a college student so the 6 weeks prior to May will be full of other school work; however, I'll definitely manage to get through the Power score bibles and hopefully 6 practice tests. The month of May though I will be doing a may semester which is a lot more laid back and I'll have a lot more time to cram for my LSATS taking practice tests and reviewing.

It is one of the biggest days of my life, but I am taking the LSATs really early sort of as something to sit on. I'm not 100% positive I want to be a big time lawyer, but a JD is a versatile degree and if I do well on the LSATs, most jobs I'd be interested in, private or public sector, I could get with a JD.

User avatar
typ3
Posts: 1362
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:04 am

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby typ3 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:46 pm

The lsat isn't a test that should be sat on. Even studying and improving your score 5 points can mean thousands of $ at t3 schools or the acceptance to a higher school

wehman
Posts: 38
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:08 am

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby wehman » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:38 am

I mean I understand the difference in the points, trust me. I'm just not as hyper-tense about the test as a lot of the posters here. Granted, they will probably do better, I'm just not nearly as concerned with going to a top 14 school. After the t14 it doesn't really matter to me anyways, and I don't really want to spend the money on a t14 school and I know I'm not getting money at a t14 school even if I somehow barely got into one.

Therefore, I want to prepare and do well, don't get me wrong, it's just I'd be happy "sitting", which is the word I had used, yes, on a 160+ because I'm going to probably base my decision on what to do after graduating college on a multitude of things. I'm not just 100% sure I want to be a lawyer; just 100% sure I'm going to school are UG.

noelleF
Posts: 29
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:25 pm

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby noelleF » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:32 pm

Shrimps wrote:You'll have exactly 12 weeks and almost 60 PT's

Spend the first 1-2 weeks doing the Powerscore bibles and reading a few general interest books on logic (not hugely useful, but may be helpful - "Logic Made Easy" by Bennett, "Informal Logic - A Pragmatic Approach" and/or "Fundamentals of Critical Argumentation" by Walton, "A Rulebook for Arguments" by Weston. The first few chapters of introductory logic textbooks may also be helpful, if you have access to them at the library.

If you have lots of time and some spare money, next you can get the 'Grouped by Type' books (available on Amazon) for about $80 combined. There's a representative from the company that publishes these books on this forum. They group all LR questions and logic games by type from PT's 1-20 (oldies but goodies, though many of the game types will not be hugely relevant). Do them all in order to develop speed and mechanical skills for each game type.

After that you'll have over 40 PT's (21-59, Superprep, June 2007) and about 8 weeks left. You can do a PT daily if you want to.

In addition to the books above I'd recommend Powerscore's "Ultimate Setups Guide" which explains the setups for all older logic games - they'll help you set up (duh) logic games if you're struggling with it. There are also Kaplan's explanations to all the test questions from PT1 to at least PT57 floating around the Internet: I have NO idea if they're supposed to be free or not. Some are available for free download on their own site.

Thi is only if you have lots of free time and can dedicate a considerable chunk of your day to LSAT (which you should - this is the most important day in youre life if you want to become a lawyer with a decent firm ).


wow! Thank you shrimps! This is extremely helpful!!! Kudos to you!

I feel like this post should be stickied at the top of the Studying for the June LSAT thread.

albanach
Posts: 1011
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:05 pm

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby albanach » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:11 pm

wehman wrote:I mean I understand the difference in the points, trust me. I'm just not as hyper-tense about the test as a lot of the posters here. Granted, they will probably do better, I'm just not nearly as concerned with going to a top 14 school. After the t14 it doesn't really matter to me anyways, and I don't really want to spend the money on a t14 school and I know I'm not getting money at a t14 school even if I somehow barely got into one.

Therefore, I want to prepare and do well, don't get me wrong, it's just I'd be happy "sitting", which is the word I had used, yes, on a 160+ because I'm going to probably base my decision on what to do after graduating college on a multitude of things. I'm not just 100% sure I want to be a lawyer; just 100% sure I'm going to school are UG.


I'm not sure you got what they meant. Even if you're content with a 160+ and a school in the 20-50 range, a few extra LSAT points could make a huge difference in your finances. Many of these schools are still charging $30-40k for tuition. While you may get in with a 161, a 168 may net you $25,000 per year / $75,000 for the three years at the better schools, or a free ride lower down.

It's tough to make the really big money out of these schools. Only the top few in the class will make it into big-law and earn $120,000+. The rest of the class could well land jobs paying $50-60,000 or less. On that kind of salary, $75,000 less in loans is huge. Over a 30 year term at 6.8%, $75,000 costs $488.94 per month, $5867.28 per year or $176,018.4 over the 30 year term. Commercial loans may be even more expensive.

If you don't have time to prep for June, take the test in October. Do lots more than 6 PTs and you'll reap the rewards.
Last edited by albanach on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

Miznitic
Posts: 111
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:53 pm

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby Miznitic » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:48 pm

You need to take a diagnostic first.

If you get above a 160, then the above advice may work. If you get below, consider taking the October LSAT.

noelleF
Posts: 29
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:25 pm

Re: What do I need? June LSAT prep

Postby noelleF » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:43 pm

albanach wrote:
I'm not sure you got what they meant. Even if you're content with a 160+ and a school in the 20-50 range, a few extra LSAT points could make a huge difference in your finances. Many of these schools are still charging $30-40k for tuition. While you may get in with a 161, a 168 may net you $25,000 per year / $75,000 for the three years at the better schools, or a free ride lower down.



this is really good advice. don't rush it. personally i'm not going to take it until my practice tests consistently average 2+ points higher than my target score, no matter how long it takes.




Return to “LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: #gobroncos, dontsaywhatyoumean, JoshLyman13, packerboy31489, SunDevil14, Tsubomi93, Vino.Veritas, Yahoo [Bot], Zoidberg747 and 21 guests