2/27 Make-Up Discussion

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:30 pm

viewforum.php?f=6&start=15300

that page then go backward look at all the threads

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby jdhopeful11 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:47 pm

r6_philly wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6&start=15300

that page then go backward look at all the threads


Thanks. There is more evidence supporting section 3 being the experimental. However, none of it is reliable.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:06 pm

andyman wrote:
r6_philly wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6&start=15300

that page then go backward look at all the threads


Thanks. There is more evidence supporting section 3 being the experimental. However, none of it is reliable.


Do you remember which section the condors raised in capitivity is? I think the octopus was the 4th section.

I hope 3rd one was the experiment. It was harder than I expected. The last question I had to struggle over a few times... I feel like they put some questions out there to see if it is too difficult for future tests, and I feel like there were more than 1 question in section 3 that was too difficult (or maybe even challangable?).

The question about fair -> morally good -> self-centered -> just, then ask you to make backward inferences was tough for me. Maybe I didn't read it good but I didn't think any answer was particularly good. That lend me to think that maybe sec 3 was the experimental, because that question plus the last one ... King of macedonia, I thought there were 2 good answers.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby TheLuckyOne » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:06 pm

Folks, after having read the feb 08 discussion, I definitely remember the question about octopuses and red/white balls. This section is counted for sure since I had only 2 LR.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:09 pm


The question about fair -> morally good -> self-centered -> just, then ask you to make backward inferences was tough for me. Maybe I didn't read it good but I didn't think any answer was particularly good. That lend me to think that maybe sec 3 was the experimental, because that question plus the last one ... King of macedonia, I thought there were 2 good answers.


what about those two, plus the micro loan -> developmental loan one

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby MeredithMulligan » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:33 pm

My experimental was the third section and it was RC. So perhaps everyone's third section is the experimental.

I found the real RC to be very hard. Anyone else feel this way?

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:58 pm

The comparative sections were easy to read but questions hard to answer. The history one my brain just did not want to take in, so instead of trying to understand it I just answered the questions. I think I did ok on it though. Answers to the questions were not too hard to find in the passage. The Mars and the Native American ones were straight forward for me. I have no feelins about the comparative one, I answered the questions based on instinct, I hope I was right :shock:

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:59 pm

MeredithMulligan wrote:My experimental was the third section and it was RC. So perhaps everyone's third section is the experimental.

I found the real RC to be very hard. Anyone else feel this way?


So did you get the LR questions that I mentioned above?

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby MeredithMulligan » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:19 pm

I remember condors and octopus questions. Someone mentioned dolphins however, and I don't remember that. I think I had the just/fair question also.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby jd1 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:48 pm

Answers to the questions were not too hard to find in the passage. The Mars and the Native American ones were straight forward for me.

I would agree the passage on Mars and the other on a land act passed for Native Americans were in fact relatively easy. The comparative reading passage looked easy but the questions were rather difficult.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:59 pm

jd1 wrote:Answers to the questions were not too hard to find in the passage. The Mars and the Native American ones were straight forward for me.

I would agree the passage on Mars and the other on a land act passed for Native Americans were in fact relatively easy. The comparative reading passage looked easy but the questions were rather difficult.


I spent the last 5 minutes on that question in the comparative passages: which statement would both the author likely to agree: I still don't know which one should be the credited answer after a day of pondering. I actually know the material really well, so it was really hard to choose what is actually supported by the passages rather than my understanding of the material...

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby GentlemanJim » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:28 am

I thought the RC was definitely the hardest section. I sprinted and still barely finished.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby rv11 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:49 pm

I remember reading somewhere over the weekend that the curve for this test was at least -10 since there was a score for everything in the 170s. Unfortunately, I've tried to find this link and can't remember where I saw it. Has anyone seen something like this as well or am I just imagining things?

Also, FWIW, this Feb test was administered between a -10 and -9 in the tests that bookended it.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:09 pm

If you listen to the Kaplan podcast from Feb 2008, the guy said it is similiar to the Dec 2005 test in difficulty - which had a -8 (93) for 170 :shock: ok now commence panic!

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby skip james » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:15 pm

r6_philly wrote:
andyman wrote:
I hope so too, but if the LG-LR-LG-RC-LR test had their experimental LG section on the third part, which we know is a fact since their first LG section was the same as our only LG section, doesn't that mean that our experimental is the third as well? Or can the experimental section vary between tests?


I looked back to the 08 discussion. There were people saying sec 1,3, and 4 was the experimental. I don't know who's right. I know it was 1 section about the octpus and 1 about the condor, but I don't remember which one contained the condor. I know the first 1 was easy, I finished with time to spare, sec 3 was much harder, sec 4 was in between. I had to guess on 3 parallel reasoning questions because I skipped them and didn't have time to go back. I really hope sec 1 is for real but if it is not the score convertion chart will probably reflect that. I will take -2 more for the questions I guessed please :)


oh shit, i took this test in korea in june of 2009. i couldn't figure out the condor question. if i remember correctly, it was in the first LR, pretty early into the section (>15). did the mars RC passage have a weaken question at the very end?

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby rv11 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:19 pm

r6_philly wrote:If you listen to the Kaplan podcast from Feb 2008, the guy said it is similiar to the Dec 2005 test in difficulty - which had a -8 (93) for 170 :shock: ok now commence panic!


Well hopefully then what both you and I said is correct and we undeservedly get a -10+ curve even though it should be harsher.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:22 pm

skip james wrote:

oh shit, i took this test in korea in june of 2009. i couldn't figure out the condor question. if i remember correctly, it was in the first LR, pretty early into the section (>15). did the mars RC passage have a weaken question at the very end?


Condor question was tricky, I missed read it twice for some reason, must had some trickly wording. The credited answer is most likely the risk of being raised in by adult condors is worth it because of the likelyhood of longevity once released into the wild. I got it on the third pass.

I do not remember the later questions that clear on the mars passage. nothing stood out as being confusing except one of the which is the most consistent with the passage question.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:26 pm

rv11 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:If you listen to the Kaplan podcast from Feb 2008, the guy said it is similiar to the Dec 2005 test in difficulty - which had a -8 (93) for 170 :shock: ok now commence panic!


Well hopefully then what both you and I said is correct and we undeservedly get a -10+ curve even though it should be harsher.


Either that or there were really less difficulty level 5 questions and all the borderline answers I chose were in fact correct. I only guessed on 3 questions due to time and they were the parrallel reasoning ones I chose to skip anyway (didn't have time to get back). But a -8 would be horrible. Considering the test is more time consuming than usual, even if they are easier questions, a lot of people didn't get to answer them all because of the longer time. I have to say this test (Save the LG which was markedly easier/less time consuming) was more time intensive than most.

So I think the LG is going to make the curve tighter because it was easier. I can't believe people (from 2008) as well had a lot of trouble on the floors game. I think many misdiagram/setup the game. If you approve it as a sequencing with attributes you would get it easily.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby as4051 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:29 pm

what does a -10 curve mean? Does it mean that if you got -10 wrong you get a 170?

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby thsmthcrmnl » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:34 pm

I remember reading somewhere over the weekend that the curve for this test was at least -10 since there was a score for everything in the 170s. Unfortunately, I've tried to find this link and can't remember where I saw it. Has anyone seen something like this as well or am I just imagining things?


Anyone? You'll make me very happy.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby r6_philly » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:35 pm

as4051 wrote:what does a -10 curve mean? Does it mean that if you got -10 wrong you get a 170?


yes. on some sites they refer to how many wrong to get 160. here is 170.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby rv11 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:04 pm

thsmthcrmnl wrote:
I remember reading somewhere over the weekend that the curve for this test was at least -10 since there was a score for everything in the 170s. Unfortunately, I've tried to find this link and can't remember where I saw it. Has anyone seen something like this as well or am I just imagining things?


Anyone? You'll make me very happy.


I've searched everywhere for confirmation in hopes that I would be made very happy as well. Unfortunately, if nobody else can find it, it makes me think that it's not true and I either imagined it or misread. Let's hope not.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby skip james » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:49 pm

r6_philly wrote:
skip james wrote:

oh shit, i took this test in korea in june of 2009. i couldn't figure out the condor question. if i remember correctly, it was in the first LR, pretty early into the section (>15). did the mars RC passage have a weaken question at the very end?


Condor question was tricky, I missed read it twice for some reason, must had some trickly wording. The credited answer is most likely the risk of being raised in by adult condors is worth it because of the likelyhood of longevity once released into the wild. I got it on the third pass.

I do not remember the later questions that clear on the mars passage. nothing stood out as being confusing except one of the which is the most consistent with the passage question.


yeah i think that's the one i chose for the condors one, but it was a guess at the time. do you remember the must be true (i think, my memory is fuzzy) that involved three types of contracts? something regarding executive contracts and stuff? that was a tricky one to me too. i think those were the two LR problems i had a tough time with.

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby skip james » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:50 pm

oh, and this test had 101 questions right?

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Re: 2/27 Make-Up Discussion

Postby rv11 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:41 pm

skip james wrote:oh, and this test had 101 questions right?


yes...23 LG, 27 RC, 25 & 26 LR




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