what do 180's on practice tell me?

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what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby macaulian » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:30 pm

I started studying for february's lsat about 4 weeks ago. My first score was 168, but things went up quickly and for the next 6 tests the score was usually 174, 175. This past weekend I scored two 180's in a row, the first on June 1994, and then on December 1994. I got two questions wrong on both. Does indicate a perfect score is within reach? I don't have test anxiety (I enjoy the practices very much). Did anyone score perfects on practices and then do a lot worse on the test?

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby D. H2Oman » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:32 pm

real subtle bro....

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby UFMatt » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:34 pm

I see disappointment in your future. Don't expect to match your best practice scores on the real thing.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby Reinhardt » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:35 pm

Keep studying. Don't get complacent. Try to bomb a PT close to test day to give yourself some extra focus. Get pissed off about any wrong answers even if you end up with a 180. A true perfect score is -0.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby tomhobbes » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:38 pm

macaulian wrote:I started studying for february's lsat about 4 weeks ago. My first score was 168, but things went up quickly and for the next 6 tests the score was usually 174, 175. This past weekend I scored two 180's in a row, the first on June 1994, and then on December 1994. I got two questions wrong on both. Does indicate a perfect score is within reach? I don't have test anxiety (I enjoy the practices very much). Did anyone score perfects on practices and then do a lot worse on the test?


You got 180s. Does that indicate that you're capable of getting 180s? You tell me.

Dwaterman86 wrote:real subtle bro....

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby Sean Bateman » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:39 pm

lol @ dwaterman reply.

but in all seriousness..listen bro. your obviously in a position to score very well. 180, probably not. Here's the thing...your taking PT from 1994! The LSAT has gotten, in my opinion, more difficult since then. the questions are the same style but they've gotten trickier. When I was practicing. All my practice test from 2007-2009 were from 159-163.. but I also had the book of ten practice test from 99-01. I usually scored in the 167-170 range on those test. before saturday, try looking at and taking a much more recent test and see how you do. if this post is even serious, you kind of goofed up if your only taking real old practice test. it's my opinion the more recent ones are a much more reliable indicator.

for what its worth, i got a 165 on the real deal...right in the middle. go figure.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby jks289 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:40 pm

What possible answer could anyone give you other than "Yes, it is within reach. Try your best." Fair warning my September test was 11 points lower than my highest PT (a 179). So umm, you might do perfect, you might do worse than perfect... just like any other person. This thread is a pointless attempt to brag.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby nyyankees » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:41 pm

tellin girls you scored a 180 on a PT will drop panties

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby ConsideringLawSchool » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:43 pm

The nice thing about Feb is that, if do get a 180, you'll never know whether you missed any questions.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby TaiRuiJin » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:46 pm

My last two PTs before the real LSAT were 179 and 180 (recent tests). Real LSAT score: 171. Because the LSAT is such a big factor in where you go, if you believe in God, or fate, or anything along those lines, just realize that you are capable of getting a great score, and then roll the dice. What you get will determine where you're supposed to go to law school.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby nycparalegal » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:47 pm

When did 180 possess "on"?

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby Mr. Matlock » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:48 pm

TaiRuiJin wrote:My last two PTs before the real LSAT were 179 and 180 (recent tests). Real LSAT score: 171. Because the LSAT is such a big factor in where you go, if you believe in God, or fate, or anything along those lines, just realize that you are capable of getting a great score, and then roll the dice. What you get will determine where you're supposed to go to law school.

:shock:

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby reasonabledoubt » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:52 pm

macaulian wrote:I started studying for february's lsat about 4 weeks ago. My first score was 168, but things went up quickly and for the next 6 tests the score was usually 174, 175. This past weekend I scored two 180's in a row, the first on June 1994, and then on December 1994. I got two questions wrong on both. Does indicate a perfect score is within reach? I don't have test anxiety (I enjoy the practices very much). Did anyone score perfects on practices and then do a lot worse on the test?


I'm afraid the real test is timed. And you won't be able to listen to Yianni's greatest hits in the background as you did during the 1 hour per section PT's, sorry. They also won't allow you to bring your favorite Perrier in the glass bottle into the test center on the day of. I'm not sure how these conditions will affect your actual score.

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Postby badwithpseudonyms » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:55 pm

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby jks289 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:56 pm

reasonabledoubt wrote:
macaulian wrote:I started studying for february's lsat about 4 weeks ago. My first score was 168, but things went up quickly and for the next 6 tests the score was usually 174, 175. This past weekend I scored two 180's in a row, the first on June 1994, and then on December 1994. I got two questions wrong on both. Does indicate a perfect score is within reach? I don't have test anxiety (I enjoy the practices very much). Did anyone score perfects on practices and then do a lot worse on the test?


I'm afraid the real test is timed. And you won't be able to listen to Yianni's greatest hits in the background as you did during the 1 hour per section PT's, sorry. They also won't allow you to bring your favorite Perrier in the glass bottle into the test center on the day of. I'm not sure how these conditions will affect your actual score.


Everyone knows about the 5 point Perrier bump.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby The Pen Is Mightier » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:57 pm

You guys, I'm a bit of a splitter... I have a 1.1 gpa but law school predictor says i will get into yale cuz I got a 3500 on my lsat.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby jayn3 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:58 pm

it means you'll have a nervous breakdown the morning of the test and run out crying.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:01 pm

First off, congrats. You're off to a great start and a perfect score is definitely within reach.

Now for some non-sarcastic thoughts:

-- I definitely second whoever said "don't get complacent." I scored several 180's during practice and proceeded to get a little over-confident, assured I'd be in the 175+ club. I got a 172 on test day.

-- The early/mid 1990's tests are way easier, in my opinion, than recent ones. If you can get consistent 178's and 180's on PT 50+ (or even 45+), then you've got even more to be happy about.

-- There's no way to predict how you'll do on test day. I under-performed relative to my average because of anxiety -- and I am not typically anxiety-prone. I bombed an LG section (-4) when I usually get -0 on those.

Bottom line, don't get too confident and keep your head in the game. Don't get lazy -- still study like a maniac and cover as many LSAT questions as you can. At the same time, though, take some solace in the fact that you've got a natural ability and hopefully allow this to mitigate any anxiety to some degree.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby sundevil77 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:02 pm

180 on practice means nothing. I scored a couple of 180s towards the end of my LSAT practice tests and ended up with a 171. On a 95% confidence interval, with such a small sample size of tests, it would be reasonable to expect anywhere between 170 and 178.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby spinsta » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:03 pm

I scored 3 perfect 180s on practice tests, don't have any test anxiety problems, but scored 170 on the actual test day. There are so many factors that go into taking the real thing - I simply could not crack one game (first time that had ever happened), the guy next to me was shaking the table and writing really loudly, etc.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby holydonkey » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:03 pm

"what do 180's on practice tell me?"

Tie them up and take all their money. No one will be the wiser.


/I'm certainly not advocating listening to your practice 180s, I'm just letting you know what they're telling you.
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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby 7ED » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:26 pm

1. Are you doing ur practice exams timed?
2. Are you doing five or six section exams? Four sections mean nothing.
3. Have you done the more recent exams? Its a lot easier to score high on earlier exams than it is to score high on recent exams. The questions on the RC are a bit more abstract and thus harder, and the games, which u should be scoring full marks on anyways, are a lot easier.
4. If you are waking up at six in the morning on test day to get to your exam spot, are you waking up at six to take your practice exams?
5. Have you tried taking a practice exam in conditions less ideal than total and complete silence?
6. Are you no longer feeling time pressure?

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby Dave » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:31 pm

These responses are absolutely hilarious.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:38 pm

I had 180s on all those early tests too, getting only 1 or 2 wrong, and the newest tests i range from 177-179 with hard work involved in getting there.

So just FYI do not do what i did and say, 'hey im great at this so i can expect a 180 on preptest 56 etc. and don't need to study that hard anymnore.' (Well, thats not really what i did but stil. Dont take a 180 as meaning you can relax is what I'm saying)
If you want a 180 on the real thing, you still have a lot of work ahead of you.

also newest tests have harsher curve than those older ones, and often have situations where you cannot get a 179 and a 177 or something like that so 4 wrong could translate posssibly into a 176.

congrats on your scores, keep it up.

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Re: what do 180's on practice tell me?

Postby hugoboss » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:42 pm

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