February experimental

febstriver
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February experimental

Postby febstriver » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:42 pm

Hey all,

I'm aware that February is an undisclosed test (the parts of which are used for experimental purposes), but I'm wondering if it, too, has an ungraded, "experimental section", and whether this section follows the ordinary within-the-first-three custom.

Thanks,

febstriver.

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Vincent Vega
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Re: February experimental

Postby Vincent Vega » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:44 pm

Yes.

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Re: February experimental

Postby febstriver » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:45 pm

Halibut6 wrote:Yes.


Thanks. You sound very certain. How do you know for sure, though?

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Re: February experimental

Postby febstriver » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:03 pm

Just talked to a few other February takers, and it seems as though February does have an experimental too, and that for all of these takers, the experimental occured within the first three.

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Re: February experimental

Postby Sauer Grapes » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:06 pm

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Re: February experimental

Postby SAE » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:10 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:Supposedly the experimental ALWAYS occurs before the break. I got it as the first section, which disappointed me because I felt I killed that section.

Always one of first three. Mine came third just before the break and it was a savior.

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Re: February experimental

Postby evnyc » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:13 pm

If the Feb. test is experimental does that mean it's considered to be a harder test in general? I'm retaking after my lousy Dec. score and I don't want this to work against me. And could someone elaborate a little about what it means that Feb. is an "experimental" exam?

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Re: February experimental

Postby JazzOne » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:14 pm

evnyc wrote:If the Feb. test is experimental does that mean it's considered to be a harder test in general? I'm retaking after my lousy Dec. score and I don't want this to work against me.

The February test is not experimental. One of the sections is experimental, the same as every other administration. The February test is undisclosed. It is NOT harder than any other administration.

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Re: February experimental

Postby bluejayk » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:17 pm

the test is not experimental, one of the sections is. There is no evidence that the February tests are qualitatively different than the other tests. Absolutely zero reason to believe it would be, since that would go against the whole point of a standardized test. There is not one single credible suggestion that it is otherwise. However..

I just have a feeling.. maybe it is different!?!??

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Re: February experimental

Postby febstriver » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:20 pm

bluejayk wrote:the test is not experimental, one of the sections is. There is no evidence that the February tests are qualitatively different than the other tests. Absolutely zero reason to believe it would be, since that would go against the whole point of a standardized test. There is not one single credible suggestion that it is otherwise. However..

I just have a feeling.. maybe it is different!?!??



Thank you for clarifying. My OP suggested it was--but I thought that's why the whole test was undisclosed? Why else would it be?

I agree that the test is objectively the same as other tests (if it is harder, the curve will balance things out) but is it true that February is, overall, a weirder test? As in, some of the question-stems or logic puzzles are remarkable in some way?

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Re: February experimental

Postby JazzOne » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:23 pm

febstriver wrote:
bluejayk wrote:the test is not experimental, one of the sections is. There is no evidence that the February tests are qualitatively different than the other tests. Absolutely zero reason to believe it would be, since that would go against the whole point of a standardized test. There is not one single credible suggestion that it is otherwise. However..

I just have a feeling.. maybe it is different!?!??



Thank you for clarifying. My OP suggested it was--but I thought that's why the whole test was undisclosed? Why else would it be?

They use the undisclosed test for foreign administrations, alternate administrations for Jews, etc. They want to keep some versions of the test secret for the unusual administrations.

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Re: February experimental

Postby jocelyne » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:58 am

would it be possible for us to encounter a previous experimental section on a previous test (say, Sept 2009) on this Feb test?

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Re: February experimental

Postby JazzOne » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:01 am

jocelyne wrote:would it be possible for us to encounter a previous experimental section on a previous test (say, Sept 2009) on this Feb test?

Yes, I don't see any reason why not.




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