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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby 181 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:35 pm

mikeyp wrote:
Darth Topher wrote:
mikeyp wrote:-.09, 3.64 to 3.55


good god! :shock:


yeah, not cool! shouldn't have taken those stupid "college" classes in high school....

i actually ran into a teacher i had from hs, had a conversation with him about why i was very unhappy with the way they encouraged people to take those classes in high school instead of AP classes. i'm not going in to my old high school to talk to classes about this situation, because it sure effed me up.


What "college" classes in hs do you mean, and will do they hurt you for LSAC GPA? You've got me worried.

I took 1 political science class at Pitt as a hs senior and got an A, and then went to a different university for my bachelor's. However my degree-granting school didn't count the grade in the Pitt class for GPA (just the credits). So will LSAC count my that A in its GPA calculations?

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby belladona » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:26 am

bumped from a 3.87 to a 3.9


but they calculated my major GPA weidly... I have a 4.0 and they said I had a 3.7?

this is totally random I think

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby OutofBako » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:10 am

Is that calculator for real? Mine stayed at a 3.61 according to that, but I have one class that is only 2 units and was graded an A, as opposed to a full 5 units, does anyone know how LSAC treats that? I sent my transcripts, but am still waiting on an update.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby mikeyp » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:43 pm

181 wrote:
mikeyp wrote:
Darth Topher wrote:
mikeyp wrote:-.09, 3.64 to 3.55


good god! :shock:


yeah, not cool! shouldn't have taken those stupid "college" classes in high school....

i actually ran into a teacher i had from hs, had a conversation with him about why i was very unhappy with the way they encouraged people to take those classes in high school instead of AP classes. i'm not going in to my old high school to talk to classes about this situation, because it sure effed me up.


What "college" classes in hs do you mean, and will do they hurt you for LSAC GPA? You've got me worried.

I took 1 political science class at Pitt as a hs senior and got an A, and then went to a different university for my bachelor's. However my degree-granting school didn't count the grade in the Pitt class for GPA (just the credits). So will LSAC count my that A in its GPA calculations?


I mean because I didn't take high school all that seriously. I wanted to be a musician at the time, and I had already gotten into a great music program. So my grades then brought down my LSDAS GPA.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby drfaiso1 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:11 pm

gracious...they dropped you that much and ur still calm...u r 1 cool character...I cant afford to have my GPA drop by even a .01..lol
hopeforthebest wrote:I had a 3.85 GPA with no withdrawals, incompletes, etc., and mine went down to a 3.72 because of dual enrollment classes I took while in high school (why on EARTH did I feel the need to take the tough science classes when I knew I didn't want to be a doctor?) and the fact that my undergrad's grading scale is inflated (no minus grades). Thankfully, it's still pretty high, and I actually expected them to compute it at a 3.67, so I was pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby hopeforthebest » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:31 pm

drfaiso1 wrote:gracious...they dropped you that much and ur still calm...u r 1 cool character...I cant afford to have my GPA drop by even a .01..lol
hopeforthebest wrote:I had a 3.85 GPA with no withdrawals, incompletes, etc., and mine went down to a 3.72 because of dual enrollment classes I took while in high school (why on EARTH did I feel the need to take the tough science classes when I knew I didn't want to be a doctor?) and the fact that my undergrad's grading scale is inflated (no minus grades). Thankfully, it's still pretty high, and I actually expected them to compute it at a 3.67, so I was pleasantly surprised.


haha, well, obviously I would have liked them to compute as a 3.85, but I kind of expected it, so there really wasn't anything I could do.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Pizon » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:14 am

I expect AP classes to hurt me as well. When I started college, I was automatically enrolled in beginner courses that I was advised to drop because I had already taken the equivalent classes in high school. These showed up as W on my transcript, which didn't affect my GPA. Now I'm hearing LSAC counts these as F's, which is baffling to me. Why are people punished for being overachievers?

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Postby snotrocket » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:20 am

Pizon wrote:I expect AP classes to hurt me as well. When I started college, I was automatically enrolled in beginner courses that I was advised to drop because I had already taken the equivalent classes in high school. These showed up as W on my transcript, which didn't affect my GPA. Now I'm hearing LSAC counts these as F's, which is baffling to me. Why are people punished for being overachievers?

They only count "punitive" Ws as Fs. Most schools call these "WF" for withdrew-failed or something, rather than just dropped the class.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby cckk44 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:26 am

Some say that LSAC counts A- as 3.67, but on the calculator if you just simply plug in A-, it comes up as a 3.7......

Also, If I took AP classes in high school but never used them as college credit they will not be reported, right? (might be a stupid question)

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Pizon » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:41 am

snotrocket wrote:
Pizon wrote:I expect AP classes to hurt me as well. When I started college, I was automatically enrolled in beginner courses that I was advised to drop because I had already taken the equivalent classes in high school. These showed up as W on my transcript, which didn't affect my GPA. Now I'm hearing LSAC counts these as F's, which is baffling to me. Why are people punished for being overachievers?

They only count "punitive" Ws as Fs. Most schools call these "WF" for withdrew-failed or something, rather than just dropped the class.


I hope you're right.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby BendAndSnap » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:38 am

Does lsac not round up if the gpa ends in .x6?? grr annoying. for instance, I believe that a 2.26 would be reported on the lsat ugpa as a 2.2 instead of a 2.3

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby JJM84 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:02 am

What if your school only puts numbers on your transcript? 4.0, 3.70, etc.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby mikeyp » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:44 pm

ok for the record, AP classes dont count towards your LSDAS GPA. they are high school classes, NOT college classes, and are NOT taken for undergraduate credits. Yes schools will award you credit based on their scales, but the grade you receive in that class is not attached to any credits.

UNLESS it was something due to a dual enrollment with a university that you received college credit for while you were in high school.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby JuryDueT1000 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:45 pm

Be afraid, be very afraid! I was raped for nearly .2 points shaved right off my cumulative.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby mikeyp » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:45 pm

BendAndSnap wrote:Does lsac not round up if the gpa ends in .x6?? grr annoying. for instance, I believe that a 2.26 would be reported on the lsat ugpa as a 2.2 instead of a 2.3


lsac rounds to two decimal places. .x6 will be a .x6. and i dont even know what you mean by "lsat gpa"

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby BendAndSnap » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:37 pm

mikeyp wrote:
BendAndSnap wrote:Does lsac not round up if the gpa ends in .x6?? grr annoying. for instance, I believe that a 2.26 would be reported on the lsat ugpa as a 2.2 instead of a 2.3


lsac rounds to two decimal places. .x6 will be a .x6. and i dont even know what you mean by "lsat gpa"


sorry it was pretty late last night. i meant lsac ugpa. and i also meant to take out the gpas to one more decimal place: a 2.526 would be called a 2.52 by lsac

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Dick Whitman » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:46 pm

My 3.59 was mysteriously raised to a 3.6. Success! I had been plotting the demise of that hundredth of a point for years.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Pizon » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:14 am

mikeyp wrote:ok for the record, AP classes dont count towards your LSDAS GPA. they are high school classes, NOT college classes, and are NOT taken for undergraduate credits. Yes schools will award you credit based on their scales, but the grade you receive in that class is not attached to any credits.

UNLESS it was something due to a dual enrollment with a university that you received college credit for while you were in high school.


Yeah, but the issue (at least with me) is that if the university awards you credits for the AP classes, it often results in W's on your college transcript (because incoming students are often automatically enrolled in first-year courses). LSAC apparently thinks a W is the same thing as an F, although someone in this thread is saying they're able to distinguish between different types of W's.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby aalokika » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:57 am

JJM84 wrote:What if your school only puts numbers on your transcript? 4.0, 3.70, etc.


Yeah... same question - even though this might have been addressed by someone on the previous page. I get a 3.7 and not a 3.67 for an A-. Is there a calculator that works only for number grades?

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby ThirtyNineOne.Seven » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:53 am

I took a course twice only because students are required to take lab courses for two semesters in a row. So the class shows up twice on our transcripts, once in one semester and once in the next semester. Will LSAC penalize me for this? I want the class to count both times because I recieved an "A." Do I need to sumbit an explanation to LSAC?

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Sky'stheLimit » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:37 am

Would "W's" or Grade Forgivenesses classes be held against you???

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Bosque » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:22 pm

aalokika wrote:
JJM84 wrote:What if your school only puts numbers on your transcript? 4.0, 3.70, etc.


Yeah... same question - even though this might have been addressed by someone on the previous page. I get a 3.7 and not a 3.67 for an A-. Is there a calculator that works only for number grades?


The 3.7 is an LSAC 3.67. You are going to loose that .03 points on every A-. Just use the same calculator, substitution back for letter grades.

ThirtyNineOne.Seven wrote:I took a course twice only because students are required to take lab courses for two semesters in a row. So the class shows up twice on our transcripts, once in one semester and once in the next semester. Will LSAC penalize me for this? I want the class to count both times because I recieved an "A." Do I need to sumbit an explanation to LSAC?


You ARE going to gt credit for taking it both times, no explanation required! You will be one of the few benefactors of LSAC's policy to include all grades, even repeated classes. Most people get dinged BECAUSE it is counted both times, as the first grade may be an F and the second a B, but LSAC counts them both.

Satoren wrote:Would "W's" or Grade Forgivenesses classes be held against you???


Yes they will. I am not sre how the Ws are counted, but if you retake a class for a higher grade, the original does not disappear. It is still calculated into your LSAC GPA.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Bosque » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Pizon wrote:
mikeyp wrote:ok for the record, AP classes dont count towards your LSDAS GPA. they are high school classes, NOT college classes, and are NOT taken for undergraduate credits. Yes schools will award you credit based on their scales, but the grade you receive in that class is not attached to any credits.

UNLESS it was something due to a dual enrollment with a university that you received college credit for while you were in high school.


Yeah, but the issue (at least with me) is that if the university awards you credits for the AP classes, it often results in W's on your college transcript (because incoming students are often automatically enrolled in first-year courses). LSAC apparently thinks a W is the same thing as an F, although someone in this thread is saying they're able to distinguish between different types of W's.


If it is a pure W, I don't think it is calculated in. A WF (or equivalent) is what you have to worry about.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Other25BeforeYou » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:16 pm

Bosque wrote:
Pizon wrote:
mikeyp wrote:ok for the record, AP classes dont count towards your LSDAS GPA. they are high school classes, NOT college classes, and are NOT taken for undergraduate credits. Yes schools will award you credit based on their scales, but the grade you receive in that class is not attached to any credits.

UNLESS it was something due to a dual enrollment with a university that you received college credit for while you were in high school.


Yeah, but the issue (at least with me) is that if the university awards you credits for the AP classes, it often results in W's on your college transcript (because incoming students are often automatically enrolled in first-year courses). LSAC apparently thinks a W is the same thing as an F, although someone in this thread is saying they're able to distinguish between different types of W's.


If it is a pure W, I don't think it is calculated in. A WF (or equivalent) is what you have to worry about.

Ja. I think I had 9 or 10 Ws on my transcript and I wasn't penalized by LSAC.

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Re: Should I fear LSAC "dinging" my GPA

Postby Pizon » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:47 pm

Update: LSAC processed my transcript and did not penalize me for any W's. My GPA remained exactly the same as on the copy from my school. :D




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