Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

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Aeon
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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby Aeon » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:15 am

Rankings are a bit like the stock market: you can't really tell if you're on an upward or downward trend until after the fact. The 1987 US News rankings aside, the top schools have mostly stayed put or moved around within a fairly limited range.

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby Kimikho » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:36 am

SYH you heard it here first

NY to 190, too

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby mindthegap » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:30 am

runinthefront wrote:http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/

http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

thank me later


Thank you.

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby Attax » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:02 pm

Kimikho wrote:SYH you heard it here first

NY to 190, too


:lol:

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby romothesavior » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:13 pm

It's kind of bizarre to see people still putting stock in the rankings in 2015.

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby BNA » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:13 am

mindthegap wrote:
runinthefront wrote:http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/

http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

thank me later


When are employment stats updated? 9 months out, right, so Feb-Mar?

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:31 am

This post reminds me of all the annoying kids obssessed with USNWR rankings in high school

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby qwertyTLS » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:54 am

i thought schools really care about rankings? and that's why they place so much emphasis on LSAT and GPA. what am i missing?

what i'm gathering is that schools care about rankings - but applicants shouldn't (rather, applicants should be more concerned about COA, employment outcomes, personal goals, etc)

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby LurkerShirker » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:56 am

To answer OP's question, the rankings are about two years removed from the employment outcomes. For the rankings this year, the schools that will make a move will probably be those that had a change in employment outcomes from the class of 2012 (which counted in last year's rankings) to the class of 2013. Wake Forest, for example, will probably move down in the rankings this year, because it followed a strong class of 2012 performance with a weak class of 2013 performance.

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Re: Which schools are moving up/down in the rankings?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:05 pm

BNA wrote:When are employment stats updated? 9 months out, right, so Feb-Mar?

Pretty sure they changed it to ten months out and the new system starts this year. So ABA data should be out by 3/15 and then up on the internet hopefully soon after.

qwertyTLS wrote:i thought schools really care about rankings? and that's why they place so much emphasis on LSAT and GPA. what am i missing?

what i'm gathering is that schools care about rankings - but applicants shouldn't (rather, applicants should be more concerned about COA, employment outcomes, personal goals, etc)

It's actually important for schools to care about rankings so that they keep class sizes low and give out large scholarships to people with good numbers. But shifts in rankings really don't change where a prospective student should attend. USNWR still doesn't really factor employment into its ranking in any meaningful way so it's not as if a prospective could even use a ranking change as some kind of proxy for better or worse outcomes.




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