How much helpful is work experience before law school?

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Rigo » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:55 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:I will for sure apply next cycle.
And I have my own rankings based on post-employment outcome (i.e. starting and median salary), average student loan debt, and LSAT score (Berkeley has a middling 167 median).

lol okay.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Lincoln » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:58 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:5 years would be too much because I think you'd be too old. Say you are 22 when you graduate UG. You'd go to LS at 27, graduate at 30.


Yeah, I was 32 when I graduated and no one wanted to hire me because I was too old.

When you do go to law school, in the unlikely event you manage to do well enough to get a look from my firm, please let me know so I know to keep an eye out for your application and throw it in the trash.
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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:58 am

Yeah. I'm top 10 or bust.

What about you? What type of schools are you aiming for?

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:02 am

Why is Lincoln irate?

I'm sorry you couldn't land a job post-graduation:(

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Lincoln » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:04 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Why is Lincoln irate?

I'm sorry you couldn't land a job post-graduation:(


Woosh!

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:05 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Why is Lincoln irate?

Because you're being an idiot.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:07 am

A. Nony Mouse, I'm sorry but a poster asked for my opinion on why 5 years was too much. And it's merely my opinion and not intended to attack anyone.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:14 am

Okay, then, for the record, Lincoln is very employed, and everyone here has reported that no one in their 30s has any problem getting biglaw jobs (assuming the requisite qualifications, of course).

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:17 am

Alright thank.

I was wrong.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Lincoln » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:20 am

And I went to one of the schools you mentioned as "not worth going to".

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:21 am

Well maybe it was worth going when you graduated, but quite frankly, things are changing.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Lincoln » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:23 am

you're being an idiot.


Just stop it.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:26 am

srry

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Rigo » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:32 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Well maybe it was worth going when you graduated, but quite frankly, things are changing.

You've proven yourself as quite unknowledgeable on law school inputs and unreasonable in your assessment of outputs.
Go apply for jobs and study for the LSAT. It's a hard test, and Cornell & Company may end up being a long shot for you.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:35 am

Thanks, Dirigo.

I've been studying for the LSAT already, hitting above 165 consistently since October. I will take it in February and June. Will even retake in October and December if I don't get 170 or higher. I'm also URM and 3.85+UGPA.

And I don't need to apply for jobs since I already got offered one, but am not sure I should take it just yet.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby sparty99 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:22 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Thanks, Dirigo.

I've been studying for the LSAT already, hitting above 165 consistently since October. I will take it in February and June. Will even retake in October and December if I don't get 170 or higher. I'm also URM and 3.85+UGPA.

And I don't need to apply for jobs since I already got offered one, but am not sure I should take it just yet.


No one cares what you do.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:29 am

wow. this board is pretty mean.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby sparty99 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:39 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:wow. this board is pretty mean.


Your initial question was naive, especially considering you answered the question within the question. Then you talk about your gpa, practice lsat score, and URM status. As if anyone cares. Then you act as if graduating law school at 30 is a death sentence. Just be gone with your naiveté.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:44 am

Not a death sentence, but pretty bad, yes.

I think I've been reading too many articles on the decline of law.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby sparty99 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:55 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Not a death sentence, but pretty bad, yes.

I think I've been reading too many articles on the decline of law.


Nope. Wrong. Actually, people who are 30 probably have an advantage because they have significant WE. This advantage is compounded if they have top grades. It's the people who are 40+ who are questionable.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:58 am

Now, explain why you think those who are 40+ are at a disadvantage? Couldn't you use the same premise that they have SIGNIFICANT work experience and how it will benefit them after law school?

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:02 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:The bigger issue is what you'd be doing during that time period? If I were working for 5 years I think I would have secured a well-paying job with good benefits. Why would I then need to go to law school, especially considering the terrible legal market.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Exactly. Sounds like a plan. Do this and don't accrue debt.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby sparty99 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:07 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:Now, explain why you think those who are 40+ are at a disadvantage? Couldn't you use the same premise that they have SIGNIFICANT work experience and how it will benefit them after law school?


People who are 30 are young. People who are 40 are older and have worked for 18+ years. A big law firm will not want to hire someone who is 40 and is going to be a first year associate and won't make partner until their 47. The 40 year old will also be taking directions from people who are younger than him.

Additionally, by the time you are 40, people will wonder why you decided to go to law school in the first place. At the age of 40 to 45, you start to experience age discrimination as well. You also might have kids and a mortgage at this time period as well.

People who are 28-30 usually graduate from MBA programs. Thus, while 28-30 is older for law school, it is still not considered too old to graduate from a law school. They are still young where a law firm will want to grow them. Still young where they have time to grow with a government agency, etc.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby I<3ScholarlySweets! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:16 am

But MBA programs require their graduates to have work experience, unlike law schools.

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Re: How much helpful is work experience before law school?

Postby sparty99 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:27 am

I<3ScholarlySweets! wrote:But MBA programs require their graduates to have work experience, unlike law schools.


Please shutup.




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