Is the JD/MBA worth it

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Is the JD/MBA worth the time and money

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No
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john1990
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Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:14 pm

Does the JD/MBA make you that much more employable? What kind of positions are exclusively for JD/MBA graduates and how much do they pay? Is this degree as good as an MBA? How valuable is just the MBA right now?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby Pancakes12 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:34 pm

This isn't a yes or no question. It depends on each person.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby twenty » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:32 am

totally man

like, a worthless jd and a worthless mba are like a mindblowing SUPER COMBO for employers it gives them hard ons.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby wiz » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:08 pm

You generally end up using the JD or the MBA, so for most jobs, I think it's not worth the time/money. But the schools at which a JD/MBA makes most sense are Harvard, Stanford, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Columbia, and possibly NYU.

Good luck at TJSL btw.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby phillywc » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Still trolling strong after all these years.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:25 pm

Neither degree is worthless. The school of law turns 50% of students in the class into lawyers. If the graduate school did the same then you would think you have a 75% chance of employment. However, I doubt business is suffering the same way so I suspect the business degree might be worth it for many students - maybe 50% of those who take the program. The employment rate hardly increases as you climb the tiers and yet it becomes much more competitive. Cardozo for example turns 50% of the class into lawyers and Fordham only creates 65% yet the numbers at fordham are so much more competitive. The 25th percentile at Fordham could be expected to place at median at Cardozo and be in a better position to get a job.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby wiz » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:50 pm

This is a good point. Since a JD/MBA gives you a 75% chance of employment, I think it makes sense to get a JD/MBA/PhD, which will give you an 87.5% chance of employment.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:09 pm

wiz wrote:This is a good point. Since a JD/MBA gives you a 75% chance of employment, I think it makes sense to get a JD/MBA/PhD, which will give you an 87.5% chance of employment.


Assuming a 50% chance of employment with a PhD yeah. There is no reason to believe that a law student would have a lesser chance than the rest of the class at finding employment with an MBA.

What I am trying to determine in this thread is: the rate of employment in the field of applicants with MBA's and the rate of employment for those with low tier MBA's.
I suspect that the rate of employment is higher since the legal field has been hit worse by the recession.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby redsox » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:33 pm

john1990 wrote:Neither degree is worthless. The school of law turns 50% of students in the class into lawyers. If the graduate school did the same then you would think you have a 75% chance of employment.


Why would you assume that employability as a lawyer and employability as an MBA are independent?

Can someone permaban for general pointlessness/stupidity/failure to troll well?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:59 pm

redsox wrote:
john1990 wrote:Neither degree is worthless. The school of law turns 50% of students in the class into lawyers. If the graduate school did the same then you would think you have a 75% chance of employment.


Why would you assume that employability as a lawyer and employability as an MBA are independent?

Can someone permaban for general pointlessness/stupidity/failure to troll well?


They have different employers and a separate market.

The JD/MBA is a worthy discussion. Stop crying to the admin's your contribution is nominal

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby twenty » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:01 pm

nah bro your math is all wrong

so if you have a 50% chance of being a lawyer coming out of law school, and a 50% chance of being employed as a business person with an MBA, and a 60% chance of being an academic with a PhD, you'd have an 160% chance of being employed as one of those three, which actually means you'd be employed in the past as anything >100% diminishes the closer you get to x-date.

ill give you an example of an interview a jd/mba/phd/ms/mpa had recently

applicant: so can i have this job
interviewer: what do you mean you've had this job for almost two years here is your check
applicant: whoa

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby californiauser » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:05 pm

How are you going to get a JD/MBA when TJSL is a stand alone law school?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:07 pm

twentypercentmore wrote:nah bro your math is all wrong

so if you have a 50% chance of being a lawyer coming out of law school, and a 50% chance of being employed as a business person with an MBA, and a 60% chance of being an academic with a PhD, you'd have an 90% chance of being employed as one of those three.



Having more degrees does give you a higher chance of finding employment.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:07 pm

californiauser wrote:How are you going to get a JD/MBA when TJSL is a stand alone law school?


I am going to drive there

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby wiz » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:08 pm

californiauser wrote:How are you going to get a JD/MBA when TJSL is a stand alone law school?


There's no TJSB?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby wiz » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:11 pm

john1990 wrote:
californiauser wrote:How are you going to get a JD/MBA when TJSL is a stand alone law school?


I am going to drive there


Just make sure you cop a big scholarship to keep dat COA down.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby californiauser » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:12 pm

john1990 wrote:
californiauser wrote:How are you going to get a JD/MBA when TJSL is a stand alone law school?


I am going to drive there


?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:19 pm

They have an agreement with SDSU. I cannot find their career statistics

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby redsox » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:17 pm

john1990 wrote:
redsox wrote:Why would you assume that employability as a lawyer and employability as an MBA are independent?

Can someone permaban for general pointlessness/stupidity/failure to troll well?


They have different employers and a separate market.

The JD/MBA is a worthy discussion. Stop crying to the admin's your contribution is nominal


Yeah but the same applicant. The traits - resume, personality, interview skills - that make you (un)employable with a JD are the same things that will make you (un)employable with an MBA.

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby heythatslife » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:02 pm

You guys have the math wrong.

50% employment for JD + 50% employment for MBA = 100% jerb. See? It's a fail-safe plan!

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby Balthy » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:02 pm

john1990 wrote:
redsox wrote:
john1990 wrote:Neither degree is worthless. The school of law turns 50% of students in the class into lawyers. If the graduate school did the same then you would think you have a 75% chance of employment.


Why would you assume that employability as a lawyer and employability as an MBA are independent?

Can someone permaban for general pointlessness/stupidity/failure to troll well?


They have different employers and a separate market.

The JD/MBA is a worthy discussion. Stop crying to the admin's your contribution is nominal


How do you have 1000+ posts and no knowledge of how to use the search function?

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:05 am

heythatslife wrote:You guys have the math wrong.

50% employment for JD + 50% employment for MBA = 100% jerb. See? It's a fail-safe plan!


thats 100% mba

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:06 am

I couldn't get any results for jd/mba

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby Pancakes12 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:14 am

john1990 wrote:I couldn't get any results for jd/mba


False

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Re: Is the JD/MBA worth it

Postby john1990 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:15 am

Pancakes12 wrote:
john1990 wrote:I couldn't get any results for jd/mba


False


link or gtfo. I used forum search and punched in jd/mba at the top




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