Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

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Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby itsasmallworld » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:04 pm

You get a lot of the negative on TLS. Just wondering if anyone has every experienced that fantasy we all have in our heads about magically scoring on test day above what you have PT'd or getting into a school that didn't seem likely.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Pancakes12 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:11 pm

It's extremely unlikely that someone would jump 5 or more points on test day. I have heard of a pretty big admissions surprise: a kid with a 4.0/154ish stats, not a urm, got into Penn.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Nova » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:18 pm

someone with a 152 got into Yale.

pretty miraculous

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby tjsmms061906 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:27 pm

I was accepted into Notre Dame with a horrible GPA and LSAT below their median. I think that was miraculous. You can PM me for my numbers. TLS had me believing I would be lucky to crack the T40 but I'm glad I just took a chance and it paid off. I also will be receiving scholly money from Notre Dame. :D

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Nova » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:33 pm

your profile says 165. NDs median is 163...

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby tjsmms061906 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Nova wrote:your profile says 165. NDs median is 163...


Hmm...I am confused because the ABA data shows a median of 166.

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source ... ba1841.pdf

Not sure how they could be ranked 23 with 163 median. Where did you pull your number from? Maybe I'm misinformed.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby BigZuck » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:11 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:
Nova wrote:your profile says 165. NDs median is 163...


Hmm...I am confused because the ABA data shows a median of 166.

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source ... ba1841.pdf

Not sure how they could be ranked 23 with 163 median. Where did you pull your number from? Maybe I'm misinformed.


I'm not seeing the year on that link. Where is it?

I would be shocked if their LSAT was a 166 considering WUSTL's shenanigans and the medians of the top 18 schools.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby tjsmms061906 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Guess I'll just be happy with my acceptance and withdraw my contention that it was a miracle. :D

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Nova » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:14 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:Guess I'll just be happy with my acceptance and withdraw my contention that it was a miracle. :D

these are the numbers from the most recent cycle
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215104

Almost everyone's medians are down because of the drop in applications

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby sandwich » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:28 pm

I don't quite remember the story, but there was someone on TLS maybe last cycle or so who (I believe) got into yale with a 3.1? I am relating this thirdhand, but I want to say he had a 3.1, but had a really steep upward grade trend and had some wild softs.

Maybe someone who knows more will chime in. I'll try to look up the post where I heard about this miracle and get more info for y'all, but until then, maybe take this with a grain of salt...

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby sandwich » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:33 pm

Found at least a little info:

There was a non-URM with a 177 and a 3.1 who got yale. Here is a thread discussing it (don't get excited, there's not much info, but there is a link to a thread with his numbers):
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=213263&start=25

Strangely, I feel like this isn't the thread or the person I was thinking of originally, but I guess it must be. I trust my memory less than I trust the idea that Yale doesn't let in many 3.1's.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby altoid99 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:10 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:
Nova wrote:your profile says 165. NDs median is 163...


Hmm...I am confused because the ABA data shows a median of 166.

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source ... ba1841.pdf

Not sure how they could be ranked 23 with 163 median. Where did you pull your number from? Maybe I'm misinformed.


Sadly, you are not a special snowflake. Their median really is 163 and you were accepted because of your LSAT:
http://www3.nd.edu/~ndlaw/consumer-info/Std509InfoReport.pdf

ETA: not that rankings matter, but I'd expect a drop for Notre Dame once the new rankings come out

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby californiauser » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:01 am

tjsmms061906 wrote:I was accepted into Notre Dame with a horrible GPA and LSAT below their median. I think that was miraculous. You can PM me for my numbers. TLS had me believing I would be lucky to crack the T40 but I'm glad I just took a chance and it paid off. I also will be receiving scholly money from Notre Dame. :D


getting accepted into a mediocre school that will cost you 225k with a marginal chance of repaying your 7% interest debt is hardly a miracle

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby tjsmms061906 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:08 pm

Does getting into WUSTL with 165 and 2.58 count as a miracle? And tuition is paid for by the G.I. Bill and Yellow Ribbon program so cost is not a factor.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby BigZuck » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:13 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:Does getting into WUSTL with 165 and 2.58 count as a miracle? And tuition is paid for by the G.I. Bill and Yellow Ribbon program so cost is not a factor.


Not when their median drops to a 165. They whore themselves out for median LSAT scores.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby tjsmms061906 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:14 pm

Oh boooooooo. Debbie Downers. Lol

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby koval » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:22 pm

I think that girl who wrote Prozac Nation got into Yale with a low 160 LSAT, Yale seems to make exceptions if it's going to get them some prestige or other side benefit (alumni money?).

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby bombaysippin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:22 pm

scoobers wrote:149/3.99 Berkeley

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hope2getin


Insane o_o

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby midwest17 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:47 pm

Bajam wrote:
scoobers wrote:149/3.99 Berkeley

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hope2getin


Insane o_o


I'm not sure I believe that one.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Nonconsecutive » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:23 pm

scoobers wrote:149/3.99 Berkeley

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hope2getin


Assuming that isn't standard LSN trolling, holy cow!

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby Kimikho » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:24 pm

midwest17 wrote:
Bajam wrote:
scoobers wrote:149/3.99 Berkeley

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hope2getin


Insane o_o


I'm not sure I believe that one.


I initially didn't, but I don't think it's completely unreasonable. She's above one median, and probably had killer LORs, essays, etc, and of all the T14s to overlook a low LSAT berk would be the one.

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Re: Ever heard of an LSAT or admissions miracle?

Postby midwest17 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:29 pm

scoobers wrote:
midwest17 wrote:
Bajam wrote:
scoobers wrote:149/3.99 Berkeley

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hope2getin


Insane o_o


I'm not sure I believe that one.


I initially didn't, but I don't think it's completely unreasonable. She's above one median, and probably had killer LORs, essays, etc, and of all the T14s to overlook a low LSAT berk would be the one.


True. I guess if a 152 can get into Yale, a 149 can get into Boalt.




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