PolSci Major in Undergrad Forum

[beachbum]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

[patogordo]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

LE STEM MASTER RACE

[Otunga]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

Philosophy's a great major as a complement to another major that's desired by employers. But I agree with the general idea; it could be questionable to study those degrees for free, forget with significant loans for them. Liberal arts majors improve one's writing and whatever, but you don't really need a full-on major with a bunch of advanced classes to acquire that improvement.

[Legacy Rabbit]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

Hello There!

Philosophy and Poli Sci Major here....

Thankfully I had one fuck left by the end of the day.
to give to you!

SO YEAH .. FUCK YOU

Sincerely,
liberal hearts (double) major

[Danger Zone]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

Hello There!

Philosophy and Poli Sci Major here....

Thankfully I had one fuck left by the end of the day.
to give to you!

SO YEAH .. FUCK YOU

Sincerely,
liberal hearts (double) major

And you learned to be so eloquent.

[prezidentv8]

This has potential

[Mal Reynolds]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

Hello There!

Philosophy and Poli Sci Major here....

Thankfully I had one fuck left by the end of the day.
to give to you!

SO YEAH .. FUCK YOU

Sincerely,
liberal hearts (double) major

Double major? I hear if you double up on the shitty liberal arts degrees they equal one STEM degree so maybe there is a solution after all.

[SnakySalmon]

America is doing a great disservice by allowing people to major in polisci, English, and philosophy. Or, at least, letting them use government-backed loans to do so. Liberal arts majors: Keep your fluff papers. I want my money back.

Hello There!

Philosophy and Poli Sci Major here....

Thankfully I had one fuck left by the end of the day.
to give to you!

SO YEAH .. FUCK YOU

Sincerely,
liberal hearts (double) major

Double major? I hear if you double up on the shitty liberal arts degrees they equal one STEM degree so maybe there is a solution after all.

God I hope so

[iamgeorgebush]

stem majors /w superiority complexes thinking orgo is going to help them perform due diligence

[Kimikho]

stem majors /w superiority complexes thinking orgo is going to help them perform due diligence

I mean, from what I've seen, orgo would help you adjust to the randomness of law school grading.

My best friend was in the top 15% of a class last year. That year, they curved the class to a 2.1. She got a 2.9.

ETA: By "randomness," I mean the idea that you could study really well and devote your life to a class, and still come away with a bad grade.

[Danger Zone]

stem majors /w superiority complexes thinking orgo is going to help them perform due diligence

No one is saying STEM will make you a better lawyer. We're talking about getting a job, any old job. Not performance at said job.

[iamgeorgebush]

stem majors /w superiority complexes thinking orgo is going to help them perform due diligence

No one is saying STEM will make you a better lawyer. We're talking about getting a job, any old job. Not performance at said job.

yeah i don't think having majored in some STEM field is going to yield any tangible advantage over having majored in poli sci/english/philosophy/etc when it comes to getting a job as a lawyer, except for IP.

oh, you mean non-law jobs?

sorry, i thought we were on a law school forum for some reason, and that op was asking specifically about law school.

[patogordo]

(*scene: managing partner's office during V5 callback*)

partner: i seem to have misplaced your resume...
applicant: no problem, i maintain a web server with all of my credentials
partner: what's the ip address? i'll write a quick script to fetch them
applicant: it's the first result for "power lawyer" on duckduckgo

(* shares knowing STEM master race glance, hires you on the spot, pays signing bonus in bitcoin*)

[iamgeorgebush]

(*scene: managing partner's office during V5 callback*)

partner: i seem to have misplaced your resume...
applicant: no problem, i maintain a web server with all of my credentials
partner: what's the ip address? i'll write a quick script to fetch them
applicant: it's the first result for "power lawyer" on duckduckgo

(* shares knowing STEM master race glance, hires you on the spot, pays signing bonus in bitcoin*)

[beachbum]

yeah i don't think having majored in some STEM field is going to yield any tangible advantage over having majored in poli sci/english/philosophy/etc when it comes to getting a job as a lawyer, except for IP.

Damn right. Except for that obvious tangible advantage, there is no tangible advantage to a STEM degree.

[xRON MEXiCOx]

Major in whatever social science you want.

Add on statistics classes and do well in them.

Take intro comp sci.

Done.

What good is intro to comp sci and a couple stats classes going to do?

[iamgeorgebush]

yeah i don't think having majored in some STEM field is going to yield any tangible advantage over having majored in poli sci/english/philosophy/etc when it comes to getting a job as a lawyer, except for IP.

Damn right. Except for that obvious tangible advantage, there is no tangible advantage to a STEM degree.

patent work making up such a big proportion of overall legal work.

oh, wait, it doesn't.

[beachbum]

patent work making up such a big proportion of overall legal work.

oh, wait, it doesn't.

And thus the value of math and statistics coursework.

[phireblast]

0L here, poli sci major during undergrad.

You find out too late that guidance councilors really only tell you what you want to hear, and not really what you need to hear. If I could do it again, I'd have majored in one of the sciences.

[iamgeorgebush]

patent work making up such a big proportion of overall legal work.

oh, wait, it doesn't.

And thus the value of math and statistics coursework.

ok then buddy, show me some stats. let's stick to biglaw. what proportion of positions at amlaw100 firms are IP positions? i'm guessing less than 10%, but prove me wrong.

eta: let's make sure this is only patent work, not copyright/trademark work, because the latter doesn't require or benefit from stem.

[patogordo]

also most patent litigators are not le STEM master race and it's not particularly necessary

[iamgeorgebush]

also most patent litigators are not le STEM master race and it's not particularly necessary

credited. it can help for patent litigators but it's certainly not necessary...plenty of top patent litigators who majored in poli sci/english/philosophy/etc

[iamgeorgebush]

here beachbum, i did some work for you.

dla piper, the #1 firm by gross revenue of the amlaw 100, has 514 associates in the united states, 27 of whom are IP associates. for you stem folks, that's 5.25%. (and yes, i did all that w/o a stem degree...i know, crazy right??)

now beachbum, are you really proposing that it's worth majoring in a stem field in order to compete for that 5.25% of associate positions that are IP-related?

(and yes, perhaps dla piper isn't representative of the entire legal market in the united states...i doubt it, but go ahead and try to prove it if you think you can.)

[patogordo]

only failed engineers go to law school anyway. so in that respect it's not a bad fallback. ipsecure is still a thing more or less. but almost certainly not worth le STEMing it up if your plan A is law school. and acting like it's gonna give you some leg up in actual practice is comical.

[Mal Reynolds]

Enjoy DLA Piper!