0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby yossarian » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:04 pm

JustHawkin wrote:Do you even lift bro?


Obviously, the most important part of 0L prep. Any other schools besides ND have a law school boxing tournament? Trying to decide if I should switch to a boxing regimen over the summer.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby drawstring » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:38 pm

Do it man.

Boxing training is awesome.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby bearsfan23 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:27 pm

1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby lsatyolo » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:51 am

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth


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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby Moonlight » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:45 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth


Good to know!

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby beepboopbeep » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:25 am

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth


Would second this as another 1L. I wish I'd done more research into summer jerbs, lining up references, looking into firms and whatnot, but I haven't been hurt by doing pretty much no substantive prep.

The main thing I'd recommend is, once you have a basic understanding of the subject (ie, once you've been in class a couple weeks), look at the older practice tests and get a sense for what information you're going to want during the exam, so you can take good notes earlier in the quarter. You'll realize pretty early on, especially once you start outlining, that the stuff you thought was important as a 0L/early 1L is absolutely useless information.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby lhanvt13 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:26 am

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth

I'd sorta disagree on 0L prep. Don't do anything substantive, yes. But, I did LEEWS and read GTM and whatnot over the summer and I definitely think it helped. Also, read all the "Success guides" on TLS. Personally, Megatttron's and Arrow's advices helped me the most.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby WahooLaw24 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:43 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth


Agree with basically every word of this and especially point 2. I would say that it can't hurt to read through GTM once and just try to pick out the main points and keep them in the back of your head as you work your way through the 1st semester. Other than that, though, I'm a strong believer that substantive prep is actually way more likely to hurt than help you (see point 2 above).

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby Theopliske8711 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:13 pm

Any other schools besides ND have a law school boxing tournament? Trying to decide if I should switch to a boxing regimen over the summer.


Signed up for an amateur thai boxing tournament in May; beginning prepping for it through April. Figure even if I get my ass handed to me, it will be a tremendous workout regimen before law school.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby First Offense » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:41 pm

bearsfan23 wrote:1L here just wanted to chime in and confirm for all you 0Ls that any substantive legal prep is utterly, completely, 100% useless. I did a little bit - not really much, but things like reading GTM and background readings on 1L subjects, but I regret spending even a single minute. Here's why -

1. Learning to take a law school exam is not a difficult thing. If you can get into law school, you have the comprehension to learn how to take an exam in a couple of hours. The DIFFICULT thing is in applying your knowledge of how to take an exam in order to do legal analysis relevant to the particular facts of the exam questions. Since this really isn't possible until you have some understanding of A. The subject, B. How your professor teaches the subject, any time spent on this during 0L is useless.

2. You learn your professor's class. Its not Property, its Professor X's Property. This is a pretty important distinction you'll understand as a 1L.

3. There are so MANY better things you can be doing with your time, i.e. working out/excercising. If you want to do something law school related, make it about employment/the job search. Revise your resume, create a basic template for cover letters, contact references, etc. This is stuff that can take up studying time during 1L, that actually can be done effectively as a 0L.

Hth

I want to make sure this isn't overlooked.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby mach9zero » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:46 pm

Been taking beers to the face for the past few months, working a relaxed job at a special needs facility. Planning to quit beginning of July and I'll be living on the beach in Wilmington, NC for a few weeks. Maybe do a trip out to Asheville. Read 1L of a Ride - enjoyed it, but didn't feel like I took anything from it that I didn't either already realize or wasn't common sense. It was a basic guide on where to sit in class.

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Re: 0Ls: How are you preparing for school this fall.

Postby banjo » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:37 pm

banjo wrote:Well, orientation basically starts tomorrow and I did zero prep. I played video games, drank, and hung out with a girl I like. I bought gtm on my kindle, but didn't really read it.


That was me on the eve of orientation last year. Still think I did the right thing.




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