leighleigh wrote:Call me cruel, selfish, or whatever, but I don't give a fuck if people apply to law school when they shouldn't. They're stupid for not doing any research about the prospects of a career and potential financial issues after law school. I'm not, and never will be, in that boat, and that's all I care about. At some point, you have to realize it's a dog-eat-dog world out there. Darwin's principle of natural selection applies well to not only law school but other career options as well.
I just want to know why someone would care that much to be the Good Samaritan. Campos's book Don't Go to Law School (Unless) is like $5 on Amazon. If someone isn't willing to buy and read it, he/she deserves the $100K-$300K worth of debt they graduate with. I'm more than content with sitting back and watching people make dumb decisions.
Some of us care about law as a profession and want to fight back against the lies schools peddled for decades. Some of us feel that the profession as a whole is better served without so many schools ripping off the unsuspecting. How does the profession look when stories in the main stream media are constantly saying what a terrible decision it is to go to law school? People hate lawyers anyway, now they know that even our teachers and our deans are dishonest bastards.
And then, also, many of us care to try to stop people from jumping off a cliff if we can.
But you can just worry about your own self, which seems to suit you best anyway.
My post wasn't about law as a profession. It was about people who don't do any research; I can't feel sorry for those people. Law professionals aren't lying about the hiring process. Thus, the profession itself isn't the problem. It's the law schools (which is something I totally agree with, as you said); there is a difference. You don't see websites, blogs, and books being written about the lies that firms are telling.
If you're going to go to law school, you should do your research. It should also follow that you should look at career prospects. Even general information about the legal job market is widely available; no one has to really search very long for something that says, "Watch out. Law school isn't such a great option right now." If someone sees that when he/she wants to go to law school, wouldn't they then think to research the issue further? If they don't, that's sad.
People who are uninformed: do they live under a rock? At the very least, people who are interested in applying to law school probably Google a phrase similar to "going to law school" at least once before studying for the LSAT and applying. Is that not an obvious given? Maybe I assume too much. That isn't selfish. I'm not going to do research for someone else. That's what I was saying.
You are right in saying that law schools (admissions, teachers, deans, anyone who works there) are being money-loving assholes who don't care about their students' welfare after graduation. I totally agree, but you really blew my reply out of proportion. I was speaking in reference to the individual level. Change at the individual level is far easier to create than change at the institutional level. Once students wake up and apply the facts to their futures, law schools will be forced to do something as well because they will inevitably see applicant numbers decrease. But, like Campos said, if students are going to apply and attend, schools will stay open and take their money. Even though that isn't "morally right," it makes economic sense. People who fall into that trap were wrong, just like people who buy into the claims made about products on infomercials at 3 AM. A law degree is a product; if you are considering spending that kind of money, you should know whether or not it's a good investment. Is that selfish? No. It's common sense. Sorry if other people don't have it.