Why I might just go to a CRAP school

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TheGreatFish
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Re: Why I might just go to a CRAP school

Postby TheGreatFish » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:29 am

Misdirected wrote:A lot of smug douchebags here I see.

So no real arguments, just BS one liners? I'd love to see you guys with the 200k debt and subpar LS grades struggling to get that dream job.


You have to remember that most of them are law students with no first hand experience of the job market. Most of them base their understanding of the legal field on the few horror stories that are floating around on the internet.

I've known quite a few attorneys who graduated from lower tier law schools, and most of them are doing fairly well. The only ones I know of that are struggling are the ones who haven't been able to pass the bar exam.

I know 5 attorneys from various lower tier schools who started their own law practices straight out of law school, and all of them managed to pull it off without significant difficulties. In fact, one of them just hired his first associate after only being in practice for a year. For a guy who went to a lower tier school and had absolutely no post graduate work experience before starting his own practice that's not too shabby.

If you really want to be an attorney, then you should become an attorney. If you want to get rich, there's better options.

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Re: Why I might just go to a CRAP school

Postby NYstate » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:04 am

TheGreatFish wrote:
Misdirected wrote:A lot of smug douchebags here I see.

So no real arguments, just BS one liners? I'd love to see you guys with the 200k debt and subpar LS grades struggling to get that dream job.


You have to remember that most of them are law students with no first hand experience of the job market. Most of them base their understanding of the legal field on the few horror stories that are floating around on the internet.

I've known quite a few attorneys who graduated from lower tier law schools, and most of them are doing fairly well. The only ones I know of that are struggling are the ones who haven't been able to pass the bar exam.

I know 5 attorneys from various lower tier schools who started their own law practices straight out of law school, and all of them managed to pull it off without significant difficulties. In fact, one of them just hired his first associate after only being in practice for a year. For a guy who went to a lower tier school and had absolutely no post graduate work experience before starting his own practice that's not too shabby.

If you really want to be an attorney, then you should become an attorney. If you want to get rich, there's better options.


Don't mischaracterize my points. I suggested that he do actual data driven research on opening his own firm and gave him resources to start to find that data. I know of several unemployed lawyers in NYC. Many of them try working out of their apartments but they couldn't find clients. The oversupply of lawyers in NYC is based on the large number of schools in the area which pump out thousands of grads each years. I know that nationally at least half of grads never works as lawyers, I assume a fair number of them are based in the largest city in the country. This data is not based on a few horror stories, it is based on hard data and employment statistics.

Making decisions based on the anecdotal experience of a few people you know is not sufficient. You have to understand the overall data of the huge numbers of unemployed lawyers. There are many stories from unemployed lawyers on the blog inside the law school scam. Read some of them.

Look at law school transparency for each of the schools in the New York area and then try to claim that going to law school means you will ever get work as an attorney. Also, having a JD on your resume can hurt you when applying for non legal jobs,.

From the OPs posts here and in other threads, I don't think that he will be willing to listen.
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Re: Why I might just go to a CRAP school

Postby Scotchandsoda » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:04 am

Why announce your stupid plan to everyone? Trying to get clients? Fail.

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Re: Why I might just go to a CRAP school

Postby Gunnar Stahl » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:47 am

TheGreatFish wrote:I know 5 attorneys from various lower tier schools who started their own law practices straight out of law school, and all of them managed to pull it off without significant difficulties.

5 attorneys????? This is totally a representative figure.

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Re: Why I might just go to a CRAP school

Postby Ave » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:50 am

Misdirected wrote:
Ave wrote:
Misdirected wrote:I just want a solid career and a challenging one. I also want to do something meaningful with my life.

I don't think you can say this and then proceed to use pistol permits as a great example for what you can do after graduating from a "crap ABA." Also, if your hostility is any indication, IF you do go into pistol permit, you will probably get your clients rejected more often than not.

Perhaps another career.

I wouldn't want to spend my life helping dirt bags get out of jail, or deadbeats who didn't pay their rent. Usually people who want meaning in their career want to be a poor "do gooder" who helps bad people.

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