How many can you miss on the LSAT

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How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby barberiolisa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:17 pm

Alright, I have an LSAT practice book, but twice in the book it contradicts itself in terms of converting raw score to LSAT score.

How many questions can you miss and get a 170? 165? 160? 150?


If your first diagnostic was really bad. Is it possible that after 9 months -1 year of 20 hour a week study, testmasters and a private tutor your score could increase 25 or 30 points?

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby WokeUpInACar » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:19 pm

barberiolisa wrote:Alright, I have an LSAT practice book, but twice in the book it contradicts itself in terms of converting raw score to LSAT score.

How many questions can you miss and get a 170? 165? 160? 150?


If your first diagnostic was really bad. Is it possible that after 9 months -1 year of 20 hour a week study, testmasters and a private tutor your score could increase 25 or 30 points?

1. This number is different on every exam. They each have their own curve which varies based on their relative difficulty.

2. Yes

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby Theopliske8711 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:21 pm

barberiolisa wrote:Alright, I have an LSAT practice book, but twice in the book it contradicts itself in terms of converting raw score to LSAT score.

How many questions can you miss and get a 170? 165? 160? 150?


If your first diagnostic was really bad. Is it possible that after 9 months -1 year of 20 hour a week study, testmasters and a private tutor your score could increase 25 or 30 points?


1. This.

2. Depends on the individual.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby ManOfTheMinute » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:24 pm

Anything is possible. Also, it depends on what you're screwing up on. LG is the easiest to fix. Reading is probably the hardest...

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby barberiolisa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:24 pm

RC was the one I did best on. I did awful on Logic and the arguments

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby Theopliske8711 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:32 pm

barberiolisa wrote:RC was the one I did best on. I did awful on Logic and the arguments


Then your in a great place...

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby barberiolisa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:35 pm

have any of you known anybody who in 9 months plus time, that improved 30 points from their first diagnostic. If they did the best on RC, but awful on Logic and both Arguments?

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby barberiolisa » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:36 pm

oh and is it possible on the test day, you can miss 20 and still get a 165? Can the curve help that much/if its a dec test

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby WokeUpInACar » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:38 pm

barberiolisa wrote:have any of you known anybody who in 9 months plus time, that improved 30 points from their first diagnostic. If they did the best on RC, but awful on Logic and both Arguments?

Yes people on TLS in the past have improved from a diagnostic in the 140s to a final score in the 170s after prepping diligently for months.

barberiolisa wrote:oh and is it possible on the test day, you can miss 20 and still get a 165? Can the curve help that much/if its a dec test

Yes that has been the case in the past, but usually it's closer to -17/-18 for a 165.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby donmincho » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:40 pm

RC has the steepest learning curve, but the fact that OP did well on RC doesn't mean anything--pretty much everybody does better in RC on the diagnostic than on LG. OP, take Blueprint, don't mess around with Testmasters. 25 point improvement is possible but will take a lot of work.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby jvincent11 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:41 pm

I scored a 145. Took Testmasters. Scored a 160 in December but thats with 6/6 wrong on 1 game bc I misread a rule. Took another 15 practice tests before FEB and PT'd 167-176. Hard to predict my score but I felt really good about it so I expect a 165-170. It will take a lot of time, effort, and devotion, but it is definitely possible.

Can't speak for other programs, but Testmasters was great. Teaches you amazing strategies for all aspects of the test most importantly logic games. If reading comp is your strongest section then you are in good shape. The one thing I will say is that testmasters sets you up to take the test right when the course ends. My biggest improvement came from the month after testmasters when I took the 15 more practice tests. Practice Practice Practice. At first I rarely finished a section, and by the end I was finishing every section sometimes with minutes to spare.

1700s SATs and 27 ACT to put it into perspective

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby rebexness » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:45 pm

donmincho wrote:RC has the steepest learning curve, but the fact that OP did well on RC doesn't mean anything--pretty much everybody does better in RC on the diagnostic than on LG. OP, take Blueprint, don't mess around with Testmasters. 25 point improvement is possible but will take a lot of work.


This, a million times this.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby jvincent11 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:49 pm

what's wrong with TestMasters?? I know 2 others who have taken it. 1 went to Duke and the other got a 167. And i expect at least a 20 point increase. The only problem is not ample time from when the course ends til the test to do many more practice tests but OP said he has 9 months so he can plan accordingly. Not saying its better than Blueprint because I wouldn't know, but TestMasters exceeded my expectations and I'm wondering why people are against it.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby rebexness » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51 pm

jvincent11 wrote:, but TestMasters exceeded my expectations and I'm wondering why people are against it.


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Because.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby jvincent11 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:08 pm

I see. Well, all I can say is my recommendation to take TestMasters is based solely on my positive experience taking the course and my belief that the course is very effective. I am certainly happy with my decision.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby TripTrip » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:44 am

rebexness wrote:
jvincent11 wrote:, but TestMasters exceeded my expectations and I'm wondering why people are against it.


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Because.

Testmasters had legitimate cause for concern. I was on the receiving end of some of the material (I didn't know it was copy-written when I requested it). There was serious infringement going on.

I've never taken a Testmasters course, but I think it could certainly be beneficial.

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Re: How many can you miss on the LSAT

Postby guano » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:54 am

barberiolisa wrote:oh and is it possible on the test day, you can miss 20 and still get a 165? Can the curve help that much/if its a dec test

When I took the test missing 15 would net a 170




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