John Mill wrote:You have to take it in the context of the original comparison. sinfiery was claiming that less religious people are more intelligent, and that based off of this, law students on average would be less religious. Law students being more intelligent than your average American is incidental if you take the fact that they have graduated college and the average American has not, even if it is true. What I was trying to say is that even if the average law student is more intelligent than the average American, law school itself is not the reason why. I'm sure there are many schools in the lower TTT that would accept your average American, if they only had a degree and a loan.
See what I'm trying to say? The average law student may well be more intelligent than the average American, but law school itself is not the test of that, so the argument that: religious people = less intelligent (which I'm not saying is true) + law schools only accept intelligent people = less religious people in law school is false.
...No one was making the argument that "law schools only accept intelligent people." And no one was saying anything about causation between law school students and average American. You went off on a ridiculous tangent and refused to admit a very basic thing. Protip: Learn to admit your wrong in the future--there's nothing wrong with saying "Oops, that was dumb of me, you're right." People prefer that compared to "Oh, I misunderstood you and you misunderstood this point i was trying to make about nothing that concerns this particular topic."
John Mill wrote:Actually the research on that is still up in the air, but the current consensus is no, if the test is administered properly you cant increase your numbers by any significant degree, and that after you reach a certain age your kind of locked in place.
Like I said before, this is wrong. You can improve your speed, you can improve your spatial reasoning, etc. If you sit around taking IQ tests at your local bookstore all day long for a few weeks, you will sure as shit improve your IQ score. Familiarity with the test is one of the things that hurts it's ability to gauge intelligence, since the test is really meant to be taken by an audience with no familiarity whatsoever. It's not too different from the LSAT.
John Mill wrote:As I said in the beginning I agree with this, but the numbers are not attributed to law schools themselves as much as to having graduated undergrad school. Now calm down and stop flipping out/cursing over a miss communication.
Once again, nothing was attributed to law schools themselves except by you. The topic was correlation, not causation. And it wasn't a miscommunication. It was you being wrong and being too stubborn too admit it.
On a related note: I don't have much evidence to support the proposition that overall intelligence can be increased through studying. There is stuff that points to studying as an activity that can increase grey matter, increase in neurons and their survival rate, but you're right that there needs to be research to link this change in the brain to increased overall intelligence. So, I really shouldn't have tried to argue with you on that point since I don't have much of an argument.