FlightoftheEarls wrote:I know Penn doesn't have a reported median, but I've seen before that it's somewhere around a 3.3 from Penn students on these boards. Is that relatively accurate?
Nevermind, I was able to find the thread:
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=186258&hilit=3.3+median+penn wrote:HeavenWood wrote:r6_philly wrote:dabomb75 wrote:There were a couple of posts in the last 2 years' OCI threads that estimated the following rankings based on GPA:
3.3 = median
3.5 = top 33%
3.7 = top 10%
Not sure exactly how accurate that is, but just eye-balling it it doesn't really seem wrong and gives a good starting place to work from.
I think the median is a bit lower, but that's what I think. I also think the middle 20-25% is probably within 0.1, so finding a median is probably not all that helpful. The individual grades may actually be more important for people with the usual spread of A- to B grades.
I think median hovers closer to a 3.25 (or about 3 B+'s and a B).
So Penn's median, according to Penn students in that thread, is somewhere in the range of 3.25-3.3? And a 3.7 is somewhere around the top 10%?
If that's the case, Penn's ~3.75 average offer GPA for Cleary (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=187816&start=25) means Penn's average offer GPA at Cleary is within the top 10%. If that's the case, Penn's "even higher than 3.75" average offer GPA for DPW (same source) means Penn's average offer GPA at DPW is well into the top 10%. If that's the case, Penn's 3.5 average offer GPA for Weil (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=188433) means Penn's average offer GPA at Weil is top 1/3.
I get that Michigan's median GPA is around a 3.22 compared to Penn's 3.25-3.3 (and, similarly, top 10% after 1L is probably around a 3.7 or 3.75), but I would realllllllly love to hear how people still think Penn has an advantage for any given individual targeting NYC. Don't throw NLJ stats out - I couldn't care less about data that doesn't take into account an infinite number of variables. There truly is only one form of legitimate data to look at that to determine how any single individual targeting NYC will fare at these schools: How far into a school's class various firms will go relative to at other schools. Until I noticed these posts from Penn students, we just haven't ever had that information available and we were required to extrapolate from the limited data we did have. Based on TLS's common wisdom that Penn is in another league from MVB, one would expect that Penn would not merely be on par with the other schools in that tier, but rather that firms would actively recruit from deeper in Penn's class.
Now that we have this information, though, it shatters the "Penn >>> MVB" argument.