flem wrote:SuperCerealBrah wrote:flem wrote:SuperCerealBrah wrote:The bolded is not necessarily true at all. Also, citation needed there.
The problem is, the type of firms that start you at 45K a year don't exactly have a ton of room for advancement. You don't just work your way up - you work for someone who will church and burn you until the wheels fall off for 45-50K a year (often without benefits) until you can't take it anymore and quit - with no exit options.
That may often be true. But, after a lot of experience and a solid client network, there is nothing stopping somebody from going solo and brining in their own fees.
What kind of client base do you expect to build by doing $500 a pop wills and DUI defense?
Successful solos and small firm practitioners likely would have been successful at whatever they did. Being a great lawyer and being having a great business mind are not the same.
It's not like starting out at a small firm means you're fucked for life - but you need to land with a quality small firm with room for advancement or hope you're a great entrepreneur, because you're not going to have the in-house counsel/counsel or partner at a small/medium firm exit option without reputable vault experience on your resume.
It's not impossible, but the deck is certainly stacked against you.
Your second paragraph is OK. However, to the bolded, so you think that all people not in biglaw just do $500 a pop wills and DUI defense. My god, I am sorry but you people are ignorant as fuck. You realize a dui defense attorney can do OK pretty OK right? And law IS a business. Some lawyers like to pretend its not and that it is some "noble" calling. It is not. Guess what, you have to bring in business. You don't know how to sell, then you will starve. This is the essence of a what a business. Even if a big firm, if you can't make it rain, then you are just labor they will eventually get rid of. Pretty much every real life attorney I have ever spoken with in my life (biglaw and small law alike) has said this.
But yea, everybody here is right. People don't succeed defending duis. There are also no successful Trusts and Estates lawyers anywhere. Law is dead and 99% of people will be on food stamps and never amount to anything.