Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

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Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible?

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Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby Lawquacious » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:23 pm

Shoot.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby emkay625 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:42 am

I would cap it at around 125 or so.

that would still cut 75 accredited schools, which is a lot.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby tedalbany » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:45 am

No, there would be a shortage unless each school upped enrollment to 600. We need about 150 schools with ~200 students each.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby lukertin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:47 am

I think 75-100 would be a good number.

But, on the other hand, having only 50 schools makes it a seller's market.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby Broseidon » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:49 am

We certainly need fewer schools, but 50 is ridiculous. I'd like to see it around 100. Full employment FTW.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby Lawquacious » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:56 am

Broseidon wrote:We certainly need fewer schools, but 50 is ridiculous. I'd like to see it around 100. Full employment FTW.



Like the Screenname Broseidon

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby JamMasterJ » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:29 am

There are about 53 in the T100 that I can't justify cutting. We probably couldn't go quite that low w/o expanding class sizes, but somewhere between 60 and 75 is probably reasonable.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby tedalbany » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:34 am

Everyone ITT seems to lack a basic understanding of math and employment.

To simplify:
Underemployment bad. Unemployment bad. We need balance.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby lukertin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:35 am

explain it with a graph math genius

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:37 am

tedalbany wrote:No, there would be a shortage unless each school upped enrollment to 600. We need about 150 schools with ~200 students each.



This. It would go from one extreme to the other.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby emkay625 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:41 am

Let's do some math then.

According to the ABA, 55 percent of C/O 2011 found jobs that required a J.D.

For our sake, let's use 66 percent, because the economy is/will eventually be slightly better and a few people go to law school knowing they don't want to be an attorney (politics, business, etc.).

There are currently 202 schools. 66 percent of 202 is 133. Granted, this would need to be adjusted for class size, but it's a good estimate.

Next question - how would you decide the 133? Straight up rankings? Employment stats? Spread it out geographically? The ability of students to pay back loans?

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:44 am

emkay625 wrote:Let's do some math then.

According to the ABA, 55 percent of C/O 2011 found jobs that required a J.D.

For our sake, let's use 66 percent, because the economy is/will eventually be slightly better and a few people go to law school knowing they don't want to be an attorney (politics, business, etc.).

There are currently 202 schools. 66 percent of 202 is 133. Granted, this would need to be adjusted for class size, but it's a good estimate.

Next question - how would you decide the 133? Straight up rankings? Employment stats? Spread it out geographically? The ability of students to pay back loans?




Keep the top schools and then some other schools for geographic areas I would think.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby laxbrah420 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:45 am

Only state schools should have law schools and you should have to promise to work for the state for 5 years after graduating.

Also, I hate competition and think that people who are going to a worse school than me are worse than me.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby lukertin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:46 am

emkay625 wrote:Next question - how would you decide the 133? Straight up rankings? Employment stats? Spread it out geographically? The ability of students to pay back loans?

At least one per state, but not to exceed per 2 million residents. The rest based on rankings.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:47 am

laxbrah420 wrote:Only state schools should have law schools and you should have to promise to work for the state for 5 years after graduating.




Yea, i think you keep the top 14 and all state flagships. 1 state flagship should be able to provide for its states market.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby laxbrah420 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:53 am

RedBirds2011 wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:Only state schools should have law schools and you should have to promise to work for the state for 5 years after graduating.




Yea, i think you keep the top 14 and all state flagships. 1 state flagship should be able to provide for its states market.

You responded in a non trollish way to my obvious joke. I'm now confused.
What is your opinion on the number of gas station on South Claiborne? There are a lot of them and the Shell by the ramp would do better if we got rid of some.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:57 am

laxbrah420 wrote:
RedBirds2011 wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:Only state schools should have law schools and you should have to promise to work for the state for 5 years after graduating.




Yea, i think you keep the top 14 and all state flagships. 1 state flagship should be able to provide for its states market.

You responded in a non trollish way to my obvious joke. I'm now confused.
What is your opinion on the number of gas station on South Claiborne? There are a lot of them and the Shell by the ramp would do better if we got rid of some.



Lol! I was really only acknowledging the state flagship part of your comment.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby laxbrah420 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:59 am

This question seems as dumb to me as, "Do I need a blazer".
Some of the answers are fucking retarded too though.
LOL at setting the # of law schools seats with the # of JD required jobs.
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby eaper » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:03 am

RedBirds2011 wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:Only state schools should have law schools and you should have to promise to work for the state for 5 years after graduating.




Yea, i think you keep the top 14 and all state flagships. 1 state flagship should be able to provide for its states market.


Ehhh, some states would be lacking lawyers with only T14 + flagship. Texas would only have UTexas providing two top-10 legal markets. I'm sure a few other states(maybe Cali?) would also be lacking. This would probably be a pretty good starting point, though.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby RedBirds2011 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:04 am

laxbrah420 wrote:This question seems as dumb to me as, "Do I need a blazer".
Some of the answers are fucking retarded too though.
LOL at setting the # of law schools seats with the # of JD required jobs.
:lol: :lol:



Lol seems to work for medical schools.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby lukertin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:04 am

eaper wrote:Ehhh, some states would be lacking lawyers with only T14 + flagship. Texas would only have UTexas providing two top-10 legal markets. I'm sure a few other states(maybe Cali?) would also be lacking. This would probably be a pretty good starting point, though.

Increased class size = problem solved.

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby kwais » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:14 am

laxbrah420 wrote:This question seems as dumb to me as, "Do I need a blazer".
Some of the answers are fucking retarded too though.
LOL at setting the # of law schools seats with the # of JD required jobs.
:lol: :lol:


I love that the most obvious question example is "do I need a blazer," not "is the sky blue" or something. I don't know you but when I read this I pictured some WASP at a cocktail party saying "this question seems as dumb to me as 'do I summer in Nantucket'"

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby laxbrah420 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:15 am

RedBirds2011 wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:This question seems as dumb to me as, "Do I need a blazer".
Some of the answers are fucking retarded too though.
LOL at setting the # of law schools seats with the # of JD required jobs.
:lol: :lol:



Lol seems to work for medical schools.

Yes, the smartest kids in the country get this opportunity:
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And our healthcare system is so affordable as a result!

Kwais, somebody asked "Do I need a blazer for law school' on Top-Law-Schools.com/forums

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby flcath » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:31 am

kwais wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:This question seems as dumb to me as, "Do I need a blazer".
Some of the answers are fucking retarded too though.
LOL at setting the # of law schools seats with the # of JD required jobs.
:lol: :lol:


I love that the most obvious question example is "do I need a blazer," not "is the sky blue" or something. I don't know you but when I read this I pictured some WASP at a cocktail party saying "this question seems as dumb to me as 'do I summer in Nantucket'"

What is the obvious answer to the question "do I need a blazer?" I would think you don't, actually, though I feel like that's not the answer laxbrah felt was obvious.

The more important question for laxbrah: do you think the government should continue to artificially inflate the number of law schools/graduates by providing gubmint funding to dumb-as-shit 22-year-olds? Or should we let the free market (i.e., cut student loans) drive that number down to its natural state?

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Re: Should the # of law schools be capped at 50 were it possible

Postby PDaddy » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:35 am

emkay625 wrote:I would cap it at around 125 or so.

that would still cut 75 accredited schools, which is a lot.


We've had some interesting threads on this topic in gthe past. I agree that a good number would be about 125. The quality of education received, the caliber of students at each school, and the level of prestige within the profession would all be greatly improved by the closing of about 75 schools. In fact, I say close about 100 of them and open about 25 new ones at schools like Johns Hopkins, M.I.T., Dartmouth, Brown, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, Rice, GA. Tech, Purdue, UC-San Diego, etc.
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