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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:51 pm

BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency

Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:52 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency

Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.


Didn't know how to properly respond to his derp. Thank you.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:53 pm

dingbat wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest

Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.

Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)

But yes, there are too many law schools

sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:01 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.

agreed - although a case can be made for Joisey (no one else can understand what they're thinking)

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby BeerMaker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:02 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency

Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.


Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:04 pm

Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.

Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:05 pm

Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.

Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
Can we start by cutting your seat?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby BeerMaker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:07 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:
dingbat wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest

Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.

Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)

But yes, there are too many law schools

sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.


So getting rid of a lot of law schools would be fantastic for the economy. I agree. Is there any way that will ever happen?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:09 pm

dingbat wrote:Can we start by cutting your seat?

This is for the immediate future. Stop being so brain dead in your posting.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:09 pm

BeerMaker wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency

Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.


Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.


Do you really think Yale has worse job prospects?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:10 pm

BeerMaker wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
dingbat wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest

Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.

Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)

But yes, there are too many law schools

sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.


So getting rid of a lot of law schools would be fantastic for the economy. I agree. Is there any way that will ever happen?

not unless something drastic happens. The shitty schools make too much money.
Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.

Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.


no, cut the bad half of the schools instead. I'd rather there not be an NYLS than have people with 165s at TTTs. That makes no sense.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:12 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:no, cut the bad half of the schools instead. I'd rather there not be an NYLS than have people with 165s at TTTs. That makes no sense.

Not sure if the ABA could shut down a LS, but they might be able to limit class side. Maybe.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:13 pm

BeerMaker wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency

Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.


Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your tiny walnut brain is just attempting some cognitive dissonance right now to reconcile your own high opinion of your intelligence with the retarded things you constantly say. I recommend whisky.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby JohnDorian » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 pm

Bildungsroman wrote: Your tiny walnut brain is just attempting some cognitive dissonance right now to reconcile your own high opinion of your intelligence with the retarded things you constantly say. I recommend whisky.


Beermaker is just babytown frolics.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby buckilaw » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 pm

Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.

Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.


The ABA is helmed by deans of TTTT and TTT schools. I doubt the ABA will be "mandating" anything like this in the near future.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:24 pm

buckilaw wrote:The ABA is helmed by deans of TTTT and TTT schools. I doubt the ABA will be "mandating" anything like this in the near future.

Just wrong for these administrators to rob well-meaning students of their financial future.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:27 pm

flem wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.


Fucking EL OH EL


IT'S SO RAW.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby minnbills » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:32 pm

flem wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.


Fucking EL OH EL

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby bingbang1025 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:32 pm

In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:36 pm

bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

Like school #14

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby bingbang1025 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:37 pm

dingbat wrote:
bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

Like school #14


clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:56 pm

bingbang1025 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

Like school #14


clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?

There 's only one numbered list in this thread... :!:

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby bingbang1025 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:04 pm

dingbat wrote:
bingbang1025 wrote:
dingbat wrote:
bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

Like school #14


clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?

There 's only one numbered list in this thread... :!:


ic.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby morally0bese » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:06 pm

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby indigomachine » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:41 pm

flem wrote:Between this new rankings list and Fenwick not being at Yale's OCI, I think we all can acknowledge that Yale is officially a festering TTT in decline


+1

Thank god we all dodged that bullet.




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