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Cade McNown
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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Cade McNown » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:06 am

PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby SaintsTheMetal » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:34 am

Cade McNown wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?


on the contrary i think there are huge reasons for UCD but not UCSB, UCR, or UCSC; Miami-Ohio but not Ohio U or BG; and MIT but not RPI or Caltech etc etc etc :lol:

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby TyrionLannister » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:53 am

SaintsTheMetal wrote:
Cade McNown wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?


on the contrary i think there are huge reasons for UCD but not UCSB, UCR, or UCSC; Miami-Ohio but not Ohio U or BG; and MIT but not RPI or Caltech etc etc etc :lol:


Just not ready to give those reasons out yet, huh?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby rad lulz » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:25 am

enigmabk wrote:Don't irvines current gpa/lsat medians put it in the top25 range?

If it is, does it matter?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby stratocophic » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 am

rad lulz wrote:
enigmabk wrote:Don't irvines current gpa/lsat medians put it in the top25 range?

If it is, does it matter?
Finest unaccredited lawl school in the country, thankyouverymuch

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:36 am

PDaddy wrote:
BeerMaker wrote:I think Irvine has a shot. Are there any good schools planning on starting a law school?


I'll tell you who should: Miami-Ohio.


On what planet should that shitty school open a law school?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:43 am

Pate wrote:For those of you who went to UG at a university that had a LS, did you ever check it out. If so, was it that much different from the higher ranked LS you are attending now?


Yes and yes. Although I enjoyed the free cocktail receptions and ASW events.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:57 am

PennBull wrote:
Pate wrote:For those of you who went to UG at a university that had a LS, did you ever check it out. If so, was it that much different from the higher ranked LS you are attending now?


Yes and yes.

Interesting. It was different how?

(I suppose this question is best suited for a transfer student who observed the differences first hand.)

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:02 am

Pate wrote:
PennBull wrote:
Pate wrote:For those of you who went to UG at a university that had a LS, did you ever check it out. If so, was it that much different from the higher ranked LS you are attending now?


Yes and yes.

Interesting. It was different how?

(I suppose this question is best suited for a transfer student who observed the differences first hand.)


I was very involved in everything regarding my UG, and I am very familiar with the law school.

I noticed the difference in the student body and the approach by the faculty. The student body at Penn was more diverse and incredibly impressive, whereas my UG was just "law school seemed like a good idea I guess". The faculty at Penn are very intent on making the students top of the world, instead of just employed. My UG LS didn't have any delusions of telling the students they were going to be the best lawyers in America.

There's just a difference in the approaches of the lower schools versus the higher schools. It's that simple.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:41 am

As evidenced, a big +1 for attitude.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby minnbills » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:06 pm

PDaddy wrote: but never Minnesota at #19.


:roll:

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:28 pm

rad lulz wrote:
romothesavior wrote:So... droves or no?

T20 = mottles n baubles, OCIs IN DROVES. Below that? Debtor's prison.

*Checks 2012 USNWR rankings*

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:32 pm

Cade McNown wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?

This is honestly the stupidest shit I've seen. Yeah, another expensive Cali public school in the most oversaturated run down state in the union is a great idea. And I agree, Ohio doesn't have enough either.

PDaddy you should stick to the white people suck shtick. It makes more sense than what you post in these forums.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby top30man » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:35 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Cade McNown wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?

This is honestly the stupidest shit I've seen. Yeah, another expensive Cali public school in the most oversaturated run down state in the union is a great idea. And I agree, Ohio doesn't have enough either.

PDaddy you should stick to the white people suck shtick. It makes more sense than what you post in these forums.

I mostly love the inclusion of Miami Ohio.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:49 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Cade McNown wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I'll tell you who should: MIT, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Rice, Purdue, Miami-Ohio, GA-Tech, Davidson, UCSD, Carnegie Mellon, Spelman, and a few others. For every new one we start, we should close at least three bad ones...get it down to about 130 ABA approved law schools total. That would be a huge improvement. Irvine was DEFINITELY a good start.

Random list much?

This is honestly the stupidest shit I've seen. Yeah, another expensive Cali public school in the most oversaturated run down state in the union is a great idea. And I agree, Ohio doesn't have enough either.

PDaddy you should stick to the white people suck shtick. It makes more sense than what you post in these forums.

take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby kalvano » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:49 pm

Rice? What the hell for? Texas already has 10 law schools.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby minnbills » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:50 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest


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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:55 pm

minnbills wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest


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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:30 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest

Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.

Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)

But yes, there are too many law schools

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby PennBull » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:33 pm

dingbat wrote:There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)

If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense)


...the fuck? This makes zero sense.

There's a reason we have 50 states with different governments. You pass bar exams for each state for a reason. Why the hell would somebody wanting to be in Wyoming government and know Wyoming law have to go to a different state to do it?

Go home.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby BeerMaker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:35 pm

If we are talking about employers in droves, and jobs are what the rankings should be based on, it would look something like this:

1. Northwestern
2. UPenn
3. Columbia
4. Chicago
5. Harvard
6. Virginia
7. Berkeley
8. Duke
9. NYU
10. Stanford
11. Michigan
12. Cornell
13. Georgetown
14. Yale
15. UCLA
16. USC
17. Boston
18. Boston College
19. Vanderbilt
20. Texas
21. George Washington
22. Fordham
23. Notre Dame
24. Emory
25. WUSTL

Just imagine the uproar in liberal academia if the top 5 suddenly reflected job prospects.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby Pate » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:41 pm

BeerMaker wrote:Just imagine the uproar in liberal academia if the top 5 suddenly reflected job prospects.

Works for me. Send it over to USNWR and have it printed.

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:42 pm

PennBull wrote:
dingbat wrote:There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)

If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense)


...the fuck? This makes zero sense.

There's a reason we have 50 states with different governments. You pass bar exams for each state for a reason. Why the hell would somebody wanting to be in Wyoming government and know Wyoming law have to go to a different state to do it?

Go home.
Works for Alaska
I'm thinking more along the lines of demand for new lawyers in a state. You can't tell me a state with under a million inhabitants needs the amount of lawyers that one law school spits out every year.
So, to cut costs, split a law school with a neighboring state that is in the same predicament.

Or are you telling me all classes for all three years of law school are state specific?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby dingbat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:43 pm

BeerMaker wrote:If we are talking about employers in droves, and jobs are what the rankings should be based on, it would look something like this:

1. Northwestern
2. UPenn
3. Columbia
4. Chicago
5. Harvard
6. Virginia
7. Berkeley
8. Duke
9. NYU
10. Stanford
11. Michigan
12. Cornell
13. Georgetown
14. Yale
15. UCLA
16. USC
17. Boston
18. Boston College
19. Vanderbilt
20. Texas
21. George Washington
22. Fordham
23. Notre Dame
24. Emory
25. WUSTL

Just imagine the uproar in liberal academia if the top 5 suddenly reflected job prospects.

I'm pretty sure Yale has less unemployed graduates than Chicago.
Did you just copy the NLJ250 list?

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Re: Most Improving Law Schools

Postby BeerMaker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:48 pm

I took it from law school transparency




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