What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Samara » Fri May 25, 2012 10:24 pm

bdm261 wrote:
Samara wrote:
bdm261 wrote:Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...


cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4

And NorthWESTTTERN!










:evil:

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby silentbob » Fri May 25, 2012 10:43 pm

how do you know who the moderators are on here?

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Samara » Fri May 25, 2012 10:44 pm

silentbob wrote:how do you know who the moderators are on here?

They are the ones with the red, purple, or pink usernames.

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Re: What are the ten worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Nova » Fri May 25, 2012 11:13 pm

Br3v wrote:
silentbob wrote:I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the ten worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??


Add Nova for sure.


No relation.

Here in TTTX, ttthe worsttt schools, based on employmenttt prospecttts, are TTTexas SouTTThern and TTTexas WesTTTleyan.

lsatblog wrote: The good folks at Constitutional Daily analyzed data from Law School Transparency and compiled a list of law schools with underemployment scores higher than their employment scores. (Visit Constitutional Daily for further details.)

Basically, these schools have more underemployed graduates than employed ones, according to LST's numbers.

That sounds pretty bad to me.

Here are the 14 schools ranked by the difference between their underemployment and employment scores (h/t TaxProf Blog):

1. Santa Clara (-28.2%)
2. Florida A&M (-25.0%)
3. Golden Gate (-19.5%)
4. San Francisco (-15.1%)
5. Barry (-13.2%)
6. Whittier (-13.1%)
7. Chapman (-11.7%)
8. Western New England (-10.4%)
9. Florida Coastal (-6.7%)
10. Detroit-Mercy (-4.9%)
11. John Marshall (-3.6%)
12. Thomas Jefferson (-2.7%)
13. Thomas Cooley (-1.4%)
14. Ave Maria (-1.2%)

There are another 5 schools that comprise a list of dishonorable mention. Their Employment Score is lower than their combined Under-Employment Score and unknown employment status rates. They are: California Western, Texas Wesleyan, New England, Liberty, Capital.

And then there are these 16 schools which do not provide enough data to calculate either an Employment Score or Unemployment Score: Appalachian School of Law, Boston University, Florida International University, Georgia State University, Indiana University - Indianapolis, Inter American University, New York University, North Carolina Central University, Phoenix School of Law, Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico, University of La Verne, University of Puerto Rico, University of Richmond, University of South Dakota, University of Southern California, and University of The District of Columbia.


http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/wo ... stics.html

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Br3v » Fri May 25, 2012 11:15 pm

lolz nova.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby SaintsTheMetal » Fri May 25, 2012 11:19 pm

Not sure I'd say its the worst, but for worst value I'd have to go with Golden Gate. Super high Bay Area COL, competes with higher ranked Stanford, UCB, UCH, UCD, SCU, and USF for Bay Area jobs, Bay Area market sucks, high tuition, something like 40% of GGU kids pass the bar on their first try, 31% FT legal employment

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Nova » Fri May 25, 2012 11:23 pm

silentbob wrote:does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?


Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

Br3v wrote:lolz nova.


:P

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri May 25, 2012 11:26 pm

I think the T4s in Cali are the worst, followed by the T4s in New York, and the the T4s in Florida. I'm basing this off COA mainly, or just saying words.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri May 25, 2012 11:29 pm

Silentbob, I PM'd you about the question you had in the other thread.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby moonman157 » Fri May 25, 2012 11:30 pm

Don't go to capital if your only option is in columbus ohio

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby LSAT>LDAC » Fri May 25, 2012 11:39 pm

silentbob wrote:well, I havent taken the lsat yet, so its hard to say. But, im trying to get a feel for what would be the worst and best case scenerios.


Well in this case they are pretty much synonymous, with respect to attending g law school with th intention of being an employed attorney.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Lawquacious » Fri May 25, 2012 11:53 pm

bdm261 wrote:Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.


LMAO! Tru dat

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Lawquacious » Fri May 25, 2012 11:56 pm

Nova wrote:
silentbob wrote:does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?


Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

Br3v wrote:lolz nova.


:P



Wow. That sucks.. only 100% for 163+ at Cooley? But then again, I guess that means you could have a 2.0 GPA and still get it...

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat May 26, 2012 12:22 am

bdm261 wrote:
Samara wrote:
bdm261 wrote:Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...


cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4


...Northwestern

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Sat May 26, 2012 12:32 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
bdm261 wrote:
Samara wrote:
bdm261 wrote:Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...


cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4


...Northwestern

....SOUTHERN california is TTTT

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby 2014 » Sat May 26, 2012 1:52 am

silentbob wrote:does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?

Yeah they have a calculator on their website that tells you what your scholarship will be. None of that scholarship committee bs.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby silentbob » Sat May 26, 2012 12:46 pm

Nova wrote:
silentbob wrote:does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?


Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

Br3v wrote:lolz nova.

WOW, people with LSATs that high go to Cooley???? I know someone(who is NOT a minority) that got a 75% scholarship to Valporaso with a 151!

:P

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby silentbob » Sat May 26, 2012 12:53 pm

Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Sat May 26, 2012 1:05 pm

silentbob wrote:Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!

SIU has very low in-state tuition. Their 75th percentile LSAT is 156. If you score above that then you could be looking at a nice scholarship.
In-state tuition at a discount isn't a bad option.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby silentbob » Sat May 26, 2012 1:34 pm

Is it likely I would get offered anything if I ended up with a 155? Im an ILL resident so I would already get the in state which is good.

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby woeisme » Sat May 26, 2012 1:40 pm

PDaddy wrote:
silentbob wrote:I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. What are the bottom 5 or so? Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??


Every "stand-alone" law school NOT named Southwestern;

every law school tied to a college or university not in the national top-125;

every law school conceived after 1995 NOT named UC-Irvine;

every law school facetiously located near, in or around New England but NOT named Harvard, Yale, BU, BC, Vermont, Uconn, UMass, or Suffolk;

every law school in the state of Illinois NOT named Northwestern, U-Chicago, Illinois, Chicago-Kent or Loyola-Chicago;

every Loyola other than those from Chicago and L.A.;

most law schools connected to schools without top football or basketball programs;

every law school in Texas not named U-Texas-Austin, Baylor, SMU, or Houston;

every law school in Florida NOT named Florida State, U-Florida or Miami;

almost every law school tied to a Big-12 Athletic conference college/university;

every law school with fewer than 10 black people, except for UC-Irvine (correlation not causation);

I could go on, but...


DePaul > Suffolk, but yeah

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Sat May 26, 2012 1:46 pm

silentbob wrote:Is it likely I would get offered anything if I ended up with a 155? Im an ILL resident so I would already get the in state which is good.

Bro, check out lawschoolnumbers.com

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby dr123 » Sat May 26, 2012 2:00 pm

PDaddy wrote:
silentbob wrote:I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. What are the bottom 5 or so? Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??


Every "stand-alone" law school NOT named Southwestern;

every law school tied to a college or university not in the national top-125;

every law school conceived after 1995 NOT named UC-Irvine;

every law school facetiously located near, in or around New England but NOT named Harvard, Yale, BU, BC, Vermont, Uconn, UMass, or Suffolk;

every law school in the state of Illinois NOT named Northwestern, U-Chicago, Illinois, Chicago-Kent or Loyola-Chicago;

every Loyola other than those from Chicago and L.A.;

most law schools connected to schools without top football or basketball programs;

every law school in Texas not named U-Texas-Austin, Baylor, SMU, or Houston;

every law school in Florida NOT named Florida State, U-Florida or Miami;

almost every law school tied to a Big-12 Athletic conference college/university;

every law school with fewer than 10 black people, except for UC-Irvine (correlation not causation);

I could go on, but...


UMass doesnt have an ABA approved law school bro

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby juicyj » Sat May 26, 2012 4:23 pm

silentbob wrote:Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!


Carbondale denied me with a 167...don't set your hopes too high lol

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Re: What are the worst ABA approved law schools?

Postby silentbob » Sat May 26, 2012 4:46 pm

they denied you with a 167?!?!?! Please tell me you have a felony or had like a 1.5 GPA? There must be a good reason for you to get denied with that score.




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