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Re: Tattoo question

Postby laxbrah420 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:14 pm

MissyJRA177 wrote:
swtlilsoni wrote:I think it's kind of stupid that tattoos matter in the first place. Unless it's something horribly inappropriate I don't think people should care. They probably will care, but they shouldn't.


+1, although apparently butterflies are horribly inappropriate to some posters here :roll:

:roll:
You get a tattoo on purpose --it conveys some message to the outside world about you. It might communicate just your art preference, a meaningful person/quote, or some affiliation. To me, it communicates an impulsive, uncalculating person trying to look tough/rebellious...most likely from low socioeconomic standing.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby laxbrah420 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:17 pm

"oh my god. that quote is so deep. that firebreathing dragon is so rad. i want to put it on my skin for other people to see forever"

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby dingbat » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:22 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:
MissyJRA177 wrote:
swtlilsoni wrote:I think it's kind of stupid that tattoos matter in the first place. Unless it's something horribly inappropriate I don't think people should care. They probably will care, but they shouldn't.


+1, although apparently butterflies are horribly inappropriate to some posters here :roll:

:roll:
You get a tattoo on purpose --it conveys some message to the outside world about you. It might communicate just your art preference, a meaningful person/quote, or some affiliation. To me, it communicates an impulsive, uncalculating person trying to look tough/rebellious...most likely from low socioeconomic standing.

I spent a few weeks researching the tattoo artist, worked together on the design (which has a special meaning for me) and is hidden by a t-shirt. Is that impulsive or uncalculating?
Does it make me look tough/rebellious when no one can see it?
I know plenty of other people who can say the same thing about their tats. It's just an outdated stereotype

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby dingbat » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:23 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:"oh my god. that quote is so deep. that firebreathing dragon is so rad. i want to put it on my skin for other people to see forever"

Although I will agree that many tattoos fall under this category

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby laxbrah420 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:28 pm

dingbat wrote:I spent a few weeks researching the tattoo artist, worked together on the design (which has a special meaning for me) and is hidden by a t-shirt. Is that impulsive or uncalculating?
Does it make me look tough/rebellious when no one can see it?
I know plenty of other people who can say the same thing about their tats. It's just an outdated stereotype

Not really --and then I think you don't fall under the "WHY DO TATTOOS MATTER FOR JOBS" sobstory

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby MissyJRA177 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:34 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:
MissyJRA177 wrote:
swtlilsoni wrote:I think it's kind of stupid that tattoos matter in the first place. Unless it's something horribly inappropriate I don't think people should care. They probably will care, but they shouldn't.


+1, although apparently butterflies are horribly inappropriate to some posters here :roll:

:roll:
You get a tattoo on purpose --it conveys some message to the outside world about you. It might communicate just your art preference, a meaningful person/quote, or some affiliation. To me, it communicates an impulsive, uncalculating person trying to look tough/rebellious...most likely from low socioeconomic standing.



Okay, yeah, you got me. I'm from a low socioeconomic background and I made a "rebellious" decision when I was 17. I'm trying to decide whether it's best for my career to pay to have a tattoo removed? Yeah, I'm crazy irresponsible. I think I'll refrain from taking you too seriously, since you're presumably an adult and still think it's cute/rebellious to make references to weed in a username.
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Re: Tattoo question

Postby laxbrah420 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:36 pm

Yea, because clearly my interpretation of what a tattoo says should be applied not only to you personally, but your decision process to get it removed...

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby Ludo! » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:37 pm

MissyJRA177 wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:You have that tattoo and your only regret is that it's in a visible area?


Yeah, that's literally my only regret. If I had a problem with my 1-inch butterfly tattoo, I should hope I would be sitting on a therapist's couch getting over myself, not posting on here.


Sorry I just saw this, I wasn't talking to you. This was meant for the guy with the toke weed forever or whatever.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby laxbrah420 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:38 pm

that was obviously a joke...

aka, "not sure if srs or just autism"

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby dingbat » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:40 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:
dingbat wrote:I spent a few weeks researching the tattoo artist, worked together on the design (which has a special meaning for me) and is hidden by a t-shirt. Is that impulsive or uncalculating?
Does it make me look tough/rebellious when no one can see it?
I know plenty of other people who can say the same thing about their tats. It's just an outdated stereotype

Not really --and then I think you don't fall under the "WHY DO TATTOOS MATTER FOR JOBS" sobstory

I don't believe in sobstories
(and neither do most employers)

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby Renzo » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:09 am

laxbrah420 wrote:
MissyJRA177 wrote:
swtlilsoni wrote:I think it's kind of stupid that tattoos matter in the first place. Unless it's something horribly inappropriate I don't think people should care. They probably will care, but they shouldn't.


+1, although apparently butterflies are horribly inappropriate to some posters here :roll:

:roll:
You get a tattoo on purpose --it conveys some message to the outside world about you. It might communicate just your art preference, a meaningful person/quote, or some affiliation. To me, it communicates an impulsive, uncalculating person trying to look tough/rebellious...most likely from low socioeconomic standing.


This view, while silly, is far more common than most people realize, even among younger people. And among educated, successful older adults (here meaning 40ish), I would say it's more likely than not that people will see tattoos and think "degenerate."

I don't say this to insult the tattooed (I have tattoos), but I really don't think most people in their late 20's right now (or younger) realize how much more accepted tattoos are among that demographic than they are even among people just a few years older. There was sort of a tattoo renaissance around 2000, and for those who weren't kids or young adults at that time, tattoos often still have the connotations of poverty, uneducated, criminal, drugs, etc.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby Neatrends » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:41 pm

So do you guys think in 15-20 years firm partners will be cool with tats? Or will the overly conservative uptightness ruboff on people from our generation?

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby dingbat » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:45 pm

Neatrends wrote:So do you guys think in 15-20 years firm partners will be cool with tats? Or will the overly conservative uptightness ruboff on people from our generation?

Cool, no
Accepting, yes

Accepting of non-visible or easily covered up and demure tattoos
Having the outline of a penis inked on your forehead will never be accepted

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby MissyJRA177 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:19 am

dingbat wrote:
Neatrends wrote:So do you guys think in 15-20 years firm partners will be cool with tats? Or will the overly conservative uptightness ruboff on people from our generation?

Cool, no
Accepting, yes

Accepting of non-visible or easily covered up and demure tattoos
Having the outline of a penis inked on your forehead will never be accepted


Yeah, content/style will always be a factor. Part of me suspects that zero-tolerance tattoo policies are just a practical way to avoid having to explain to applicants why one tattoo is unacceptable, but others are okay. It would be a nightmare for employers to draw the line. Tiny, easily hidden and tasteful flower tattoo? Okay. Flames of hell raging up the forearm? Not okay. But where to draw the line, and how do you justify it on paper? Hence, zero-tolerance on paper. It might play out differently in person, though.

As for me, I'm going to experiment with tattoo concealer make-up.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby r6_philly » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:47 pm

Who has zero-tolerance policies?

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby pret » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:12 pm

Thank god I'm too boring for tattoos!

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby dingbat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:59 pm

pret wrote:Thank god I'm too boring for tattoos!

Just tattoo a smiley face on your left butt cheek - no one will ever know

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby HellOnHeels » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:39 pm

while i do not have a tattoo, while reading through the thread, i saw something about pants suits and hair worn up being bad? seriously?

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby FloridaCoastalorbust » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:06 pm

I have a mustache tattooed on the inside of my forefinger. Good for laughs but essentially unhideable. Already nervous for when partners notice. Also have some arm stuff that causes me to wear long sleeves almost everyday. IMO cover tats when first judgments are made (class, etc), and always around professionals.

Plz no quotes

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby vpintz » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:50 pm

stephinmd wrote:while i do not have a tattoo, while reading through the thread, i saw something about pants suits and hair worn up being bad? seriously?

This. The skirts in skirt suits are usually hellishly uncomfortable. And while I get that comfort is not/shouldn't be the main factor in professional clothes, I can't imagine having to be in an uncomfortable pencil skirt all day being very fun.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby cinephile » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:57 pm

stephinmd wrote:while i do not have a tattoo, while reading through the thread, i saw something about pants suits and hair worn up being bad? seriously?


I actually read that hair up was the more professional way to go.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby vpintz » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:03 pm

cinephile wrote:
stephinmd wrote:while i do not have a tattoo, while reading through the thread, i saw something about pants suits and hair worn up being bad? seriously?


I actually read that hair up was the more professional way to go.

Yeah, I heard that, too. although it probably depends on whether the person in question is keeping it classy, or has one of those annoying messy bun/ponytails.

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby Geist13 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:14 pm

masked kavana wrote:Wait you have to wear long sleeves when meeting with professors too? How about to class?

I have a sleeve and have never had a problem with it yet.. Is the legal profession this old fashioned?


No you don't need to cover up in front of professors or classmates etc.; that's absurd. You do need to cover up for any job interview (that's hardly unique to the legal profession, however).

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby prosen5808 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:39 pm

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Re: Tattoo question

Postby sd5289 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:43 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:To me, it communicates an impulsive, uncalculating person trying to look tough/rebellious...most likely from low socioeconomic standing.


I spent 2 yrs working with a good friend (who is an artist) designing mine, which I got in my mid-20's. Totally an impulsive decision. :roll:

I can cover mine up if I want to (it's on my forearm), but I often wear 3/4 sleeves and some of it inevitably shows. Hasn't gotten me in trouble yet and I've been working in the legal field for 5+ years now.




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