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Postby yoft » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:35 pm

Edit: issue resolved! Thanks for all your advice, I managed to get the mark removed at the university level. This has been a ridiculous situation from the start.

Can I get a mod to delete this thread? I'd rather not have this much personal information floating around. Thanks very much in advance.
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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby justinp » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:25 pm

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby duckmoney » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:30 pm

Consulting a lawyer would be a very good idea. I assume you've exhausted the appeals process?

If all else fails, my best guess would it would probably be best to accept responsibility. You seem to have a very good story, which makes it surprising that they would still find you responsible. If the law school does not believe your story - and they will probably take the administration's side and not yours - then you just seem whiny and immature.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby reformed calvinist » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:36 pm

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby yoft » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:42 pm

Thanks, I'm just trying to wrap my head around my options and situation. I don't know how a lawyer would be able to prove my case. Assuming I just take responsibility for it, would this preclude me from attending law school, or (this is extremely optimistic) the top tier law schools I was looking at before this?

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby reformed calvinist » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:43 pm

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby homestyle28 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:44 pm

Wife works in higher ed and has sat on these kind of review boards, lots of students bring lawyers to these kinds of hearings and they're almost always better off when the do so, so like others above have said: get a lawyer, appeal. And you haven't really, REALLY, exhausted the appeals process until your board of Regents (or similar body) has turned you down.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby sidhesadie » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:53 pm

:)
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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby seancris » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:03 pm

Accept responsibility if you did it. If you're innocent, NEVER accept responsibility for it. Lawyer up ASAP and appeal as far as you can.

If this sticks to you despite maintaining your innocence, prepare to go to a lower-ranked school and just pursue a scholarship based on having extraordinary numbers for that school. The competition is just too intense at the top schools for you to be likely to overcome any character issues. A lower ranked school would probably take you with a scholarship if your numbers are sky high (for them) and you maintain your innocence/submit an addendum.

Also, I wonder what impact if any this will have on OP's chances for bar admission? I know nothing about it, but OP should do the research to make sure that this doesn't preculde him from admission to the bar.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby R86 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:21 pm

:D
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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby geoduck » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:57 pm

I'm sorry, but are you sane? You want to become a lawyer but don't have the balls to fight for your innocence in a VERY SERIOUS academic charge? Others have said it. But I'm going to emphasize it:

THIS IS BAD! YOU DON'T WANT THIS ON YOUR ACADEMIC RECORD!

Unless you plan on going to whatever school wants students who cheat and want a terrible mark on your C&F, fight this. Fight it like your future depends on it. You have to learn some time if you don't plan on doing doc review and copying boilerplate contracts for your entire career.

Jesus. 'All I have is circumstantial evidence and think it's easier to just bend over and take it. What're my chances at HSY???'

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby checkster » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:37 am

Fight fight fight.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby Gail » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:42 am

reformed calvinist wrote:
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Be a loud, annoying motherfucker. Escalate to the highest administrative officials you can. I certainly hope some mouthbreathing student committee isn't the final word-there's got to be some provost you can appeal to.

Also, +1 on lawyering up. In the end you might have to swallow this bitter pill, but if you truly are innocent, channel some righteous anger. You were wronged, so don't shut up, don't stop complaining to the administration. If your appeal is denied, write an excoriating letter to the editor in the school newspaper. Be loud and proud.


This. Give them absolute hell.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby cinephile » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:20 pm

As some other people have said, your primary concern shouldn't be getting into law school, but rather if you'll be able to pass C+F. Obviously you want to fight this first. But also check with the state bars where you're interested in working about how this charge could affect you.

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Re: Convicted of Academic Dishonesty But Innocent?

Postby yoft » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:54 pm

Can I get a mod to delete this thread? I'd rather not have this much personal information floating around. Thanks very much in advance.

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Re: MOD PLEASE DELETE

Postby ColtsFan88 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:41 pm

Congrats, sounded like you were gonna get screwed, a little. Glad it got resolved.




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