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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby dingbat » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:04 pm

If you want to do consulting, an MBA is almost essential (deepening on what kind of consulting)

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

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Interested in this as well.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby kalvano » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:47 pm

What you do in 1L has fuck-all to do with actually being a lawyer.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby kalvano » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:20 pm

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:
kalvano wrote:What you do in 1L has fuck-all to do with actually being a lawyer.


I realize that, but the case research in legal writing class has to have some resemblance to litigation, no? Also, I'm going off what I've learned from alumni and career events.


Some resemblance, but actual research for a real legal issue is nothing like the crushing boredom and despair of a legal writing project.

Think of legal writing as the real world times 1,000,000 with some unnecessary torture thrown in for good measure.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby FryBreadPower » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:21 pm

General consensus of this site seems to be that the only JD/MBA that is truly worth it is Harvard or Stanford. Though I could be wrong due to my real lack of search knowledge on the subject. I've just seen a good number of users push that belief.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby justicefishy » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:02 am

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:
FryBreadPower wrote:General consensus of this site seems to be that the only JD/MBA that is truly worth it is Harvard or Stanford. Though I could be wrong due to my real lack of search knowledge on the subject. I've just seen a good number of users push that belief.


I've seen this via search, but have no idea how that conclusion is drawn. Seems like a very arbitrary distinction considering there are schools that at least match those two in certain career areas (e.g. finance).


What about Penn? I'm thinking about doing a JD/MBA at Penn if I can score well enough on the GMATs.

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Postby Stanford4Me » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:11 am

dingbat wrote:If you want to do consulting, an MBA is almost essential (deepening on what kind of consulting)

All I have is anecdotal evidence, but I have a friend who worked with me last summer who split between our firm and McKinsey. She's not doing the JD/MBA program at her school, and from what she told me, consulting firms enjoy hiring JDs. Who knows, though.

OP, doesn't seem worth your time.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby Airknight » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:55 am

JD at Harvard would open doors to banking, consulting or law firm, depending on what you want to do.

MBA even at Wharton wouldn't open doors to law firm. For consulting, yes.

That's to the best of my understanding.

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Postby dooood » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:14 am

Airknight wrote:JD at Harvard would open doors to banking, consulting or law firm, depending on what you want to do.

MBA even at Wharton wouldn't open doors to law firm. For consulting, yes.

That's to the best of my understanding.

I should certainly hope so. You know, being that Wharton's not a law school and everything

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby BlueDiamond » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:50 am

what would the answer be for a school outside the top 7 if they accepted LSAT in place of GMAT and you could do it for free? I dont have the grades for Biglaw unless I either kill second semester (which seems impossible since im doing 1/8 of the work I did first semester) or get lucky during OCI

At the moment my gameplan was do OCI.. if offer no MBA.. if no offer then MBA

edit: and I absolutely hate 1L.. miserable work, miserable people, miserable professors, miserable administration.. miserable..

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby Stanford4Me » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:13 pm

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:
Stanford4Me wrote:
dingbat wrote:If you want to do consulting, an MBA is almost essential (deepening on what kind of consulting)

All I have is anecdotal evidence, but I have a friend who worked with me last summer who split between our firm and McKinsey. She's not doing the JD/MBA program at her school, and from what she told me, consulting firms enjoy hiring JDs. Who knows, though.

OP, doesn't seem worth your time.


Was that individual from HYSCC? I've heard McKinsey recruits at OCI at those schools, which offers more options than the online resume submission that it takes from the T14 plus a handful of T20 schools. Also, I've heard that McKinsey is one of the firms that likes JDs, whereas I'm not sure the same is true about BCG, Bain, Deloitte, ATK, LEK, Booz, etc.

Yeah, she was at one of those schools. Again, I'm not too sure about JDs working in consulting, though I feel like there used to be a lot of threads discussing the issue here. I'll do a search when I get more time.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby LSATNightmares » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:40 pm

So, my husband is an MBA student at Harvard and about to graduate. Just know that if you're not a genius or don't have solid business experience already, it's hard to get those consulting jobs. My husband, who before b-school held a highly coveted international development position, couldn't get recruited at a consulting firm after trying two years in a row at HBS. And he's smart. He probably could have gotten one of those jobs had he wanted to do consulting in his native country (which wasn't a real possibility, as I'm in the U.S.). But consulting jobs are very competitive.

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby msblaw89 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:47 pm

Are the requirements more lenient if you are do the joint JD/MBA program?

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Re: Don't like 1L: JD > JD/MBA?

Postby etlien » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:01 pm

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:Wow, it looks like there are a lot of JD/MBA questions, but not a lot of answers.

Just to be clear, my OP is in regards to going for the MBA after already being in law school. I agree with the posters that say if you are still applying and in neither, choose between law and business and go for just that degree. Even at the very top schools, an MBA provides no value to all the non-corporate options.

I'm coming from the point of view of a 1L that isn't as interested in law outside of corporate transactional as I should be and maybe should have done the MBA initially. I was just hoping there were other 1L > JD/MBAs that might have been through the process.


I am a 1L at one of the non-M7 T14 and applied to/got accepted/going to business school next year. My understanding is everything is very specific to the JD/MBA program you'll be in. For example, some places have 3 year programs and other places have 4 year programs which makes a huge difference in terms of recruiting.




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