Is it a crime to be a religious law school? If you go to one of these schools, you knew what you were getting yourself into before you went, or you were an ignoramus who deserves whatever happens to you.
False dichotomy and lolwut post?
If you are accusing me of making a false dichotomy, I would say not considering the fact that their Evangelical/Christian/Roman Catholic distinctives are both fairly well known and well advertised in their material. If you do not know that, then you have not done your due diligence to learn about the service you are purchasing, and that makes you an ignoramus.
Nate895 wrote:It's like joining the army and getting angry when the drill sergeant yells into your face. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to come here.
I don't take issue with your analogy, its main point is more or less on point for schools like Liberty, Regent, and BYU. But having been yelled at by drill sergeants, I can literally remember my inner monologue saying, "This is crap, I'm so angry at this situation."
I dunno though man. It was kind of a big deal at my undergrad last year. I went to one of those liberal Catholic/Jesuit schools in the Northeast (I might as well say Fordham at this point - people seemed to have sussed it out), and it's gotten a lot of flak for how it treats free speech and women's healthcare on campus. The sole reason for a free speech zone on campus (somewhat similar to Georgetown's 'Red Square') proposal failing was that the administration was worried about students handing out free condoms in it. And no student groups whose primary focus is supporting the pro-choice movement were allowed to charter on campus, whereas the Respect For Life club was given elevated status and allowed to hold a bunch of demonstrations every year.
Which you could argue is fine, because it's a private institution nominally run by the Jesuits. But schools like BC and Fordham intentionally minimize their Catholicism, partly because of their national reputation, and it's almost completely absent in the classroom. Some of the other outwardly religious schools like BYU, Regent, and Liberty specifically target Mormons and evangelicals, and incorporate their theology in non-theology classes. I met some Liberty ROTC cadets at Fort Bragg once at a joint-training when I was an undergrad, and they met literally every stereotype you would have of a Liberty student. Not saying that's a bad thing, but I bet you couldn't tell a BC, Fordham, or Georgetown student apart. That's because of the people opting into a religious university education, which students of the three aforementioned schools aren't. Bottom line, there's a scale for these schools. Liberty, BYU, and Regent are on one end, places like St. John's, Notre Dame, and Villanova are somewhat closer to the middle, and Fordham, BC, the Loyolas, Seattle, Gonzaga, etc are on the other end.
First, as far as the analogy goes, I didn't mean not having anger at all, I just meant not having anger and then directing your frustration at your peers or acting like it was somehow unexpected.
Secondly, I know what you're talking about with our ROTC guys, lol. I remember I went to this military "gala" last semester and I was subjected to this long political rant, which I probably mostly agreed with, but it was presented so bad I was just like "this is stupid." Not all Liberty students meet the stereotypes, but government majors (I don't know an ROTC guy who isn't also a government major) tend to meet them more than usual. Because of our niche and absurdly low admissions standards, we tend to have people from all across the spectrum as far as intelligence goes, and that translates into some students going out there and acting like idiots because they always were idiots and did just enough to skate to graduation.
As far as the school (UG, law, or otherwise) goes, we make no bones about the fact we believe Jesus is the Lord over every aspect of our lives, even political and legal affairs. That doesn't mean that we read contracts or statutes differently than anyone else, per se
, but it does affect how we would practice law professionally, and might cause us to, in extremely rare cases, act according to our conscious differently than other lawyers. If someone is considering coming here or any school like us, this is something he/she would obviously need to consider very heavily. You will be taught Christian ethics, which is where our Evangelical distinctives come out most clearly. Also keep in mind that it's not like you will be taught torts or contracts much differently than any other school. Constitutional law will also be taught with an originalist understanding, though other points of view are taught (I know a conlaw prof from my church). Also, if you feel bound by conscious due to the agreement you make when you matriculate, you will be unable to drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, or have sex outside of the covenant of marriage. Really, though, I can see absolutely no reason to attend Liberty or Regent if you aren't an Evangelical considering the horrible job prospects.