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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby romothesavior » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:26 pm

paul_m86 wrote:
Rotor wrote:Internal annual studies for Calif. L. Rev. to evaluate ways to improve diversity, looking at every stage of the CLR write on process to determine where we could improve our results. Statistically, lower percentages of PI and URMs were signing up to write-on and they also completed packages at a lower rate, so it wasn't necessarily that those groups weren't getting selected, it's that they weren't even in the pool to be picked at the end of the day.

Sorry can't share the actual studies (FERPA issues, I think). But you can see the genesis of the research initiative in Amy DeVaudreuil, Silence at the California Law Review, 91 CALIF. L. REV. 1183 (2003) (reviewing ANDREA GUERRERO, SILENCE AT BOALT HALL: THE DISMANTLING OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION (2002)).


Maybe that has to do with PI people (lower performing as a whole) knowing that their writing skills weren't strong enough to write onto law review, so they didn't even try?

You're an insufferable prick.

Somewhatwayward, please spread this thread around.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:27 pm

romothesavior wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:
Rotor wrote:Internal annual studies for Calif. L. Rev. to evaluate ways to improve diversity, looking at every stage of the CLR write on process to determine where we could improve our results. Statistically, lower percentages of PI and URMs were signing up to write-on and they also completed packages at a lower rate, so it wasn't necessarily that those groups weren't getting selected, it's that they weren't even in the pool to be picked at the end of the day.

Sorry can't share the actual studies (FERPA issues, I think). But you can see the genesis of the research initiative in Amy DeVaudreuil, Silence at the California Law Review, 91 CALIF. L. REV. 1183 (2003) (reviewing ANDREA GUERRERO, SILENCE AT BOALT HALL: THE DISMANTLING OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION (2002)).


Maybe that has to do with PI people (lower performing as a whole) knowing that their writing skills weren't strong enough to write onto law review, so they didn't even try?

You're an insufferable prick.

Somewhatwayward, please spread this thread around.


I have a feeling that most people at somewhatwayward's school would agree with me.....

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby romothesavior » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:28 pm

paul_m86 wrote:I have a feeling that most people at somewhatwayward's school would agree with me.....

I have a feeling they won't.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:30 pm

romothesavior wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:I have a feeling that most people at somewhatwayward's school would agree with me.....

I have a feeling they won't.


I have a feeling they would......

If you went to school there, you would know.....

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby Gettingstarted1928 » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:44 pm

paul_m86 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:I have a feeling that most people at somewhatwayward's school would agree with me.....

I have a feeling they won't.


I have a feeling they would......

If you went to school there, you would know.....


I have a feeling they won't

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby johansantana21 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:50 am

paul_m86 wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:Please, tell us more about the SA you landed at OCI :roll:


meh

getting an SA out of OCI isn't something huge to brag about

pretty much like bragging about getting above median

not that big of a deal


Which fucking school do you go to that above median equates to getting a biglaw job?

HYS?

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:55 am

johansantana21 wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:Please, tell us more about the SA you landed at OCI :roll:


meh

getting an SA out of OCI isn't something huge to brag about

pretty much like bragging about getting above median

not that big of a deal


Which fucking school do you go to that above median equates to getting a biglaw job?

HYS?


Columbia / Chicago. Wouldn't be surprised if at least 70 percent of the class got a biglaw SA lined up. Like I said, not that impressive and certainly not something bragworthy. Where do you go, bro? Sounds like you're kind of out of touch.

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Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:00 am

paul_m86 wrote:Columbia / Chicago. Wouldn't be surprised if at least 70 percent of the class got a biglaw SA lined up. Like I said, not that impressive and certainly not something bragworthy. Where do you go, bro? Sounds like you're kind of out of touch.


In addition to the extremely douchey employment trolling, OP is now egregiously anti-NYU trolling.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby johansantana21 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:01 am

paul_m86 wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:Please, tell us more about the SA you landed at OCI :roll:


meh

getting an SA out of OCI isn't something huge to brag about

pretty much like bragging about getting above median

not that big of a deal


Which fucking school do you go to that above median equates to getting a biglaw job?

HYS?


Columbia / Chicago. Wouldn't be surprised if at least 70 percent of the class got a biglaw SA lined up. Like I said, not that impressive and certainly not something bragworthy. Where do you go, bro? Sounds like you're kind of out of touch.


70% got biglaw SA lined up? Even factoring in no-offers, that sounds ridiculous ITE.

I go to DCN

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:09 am

johansantana21 wrote:70% got biglaw SA lined up? Even factoring in no-offers, that sounds ridiculous ITE.

I go to DCN


I'm almost certain that we had more than 65 percent of the class spend their summer at a biglaw firm for Summer 2011. This year, it seems to have improved a little. I would be absolutely shocked if it was less than 70 percent.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:10 am

Mal Reynolds wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:Columbia / Chicago. Wouldn't be surprised if at least 70 percent of the class got a biglaw SA lined up. Like I said, not that impressive and certainly not something bragworthy. Where do you go, bro? Sounds like you're kind of out of touch.


In addition to the extremely douchey employment trolling, OP is now egregiously anti-NYU trolling.


Nobody who is not deluded really and honestly thinks that NYU and Columbia are on the same levels.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby johansantana21 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:11 am

paul_m86 wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:70% got biglaw SA lined up? Even factoring in no-offers, that sounds ridiculous ITE.

I go to DCN


I'm almost certain that we had more than 65 percent of the class spend their summer at a biglaw firm for Summer 2011. This year, it seems to have improved a little. I would be absolutely shocked if it was less than 70 percent.


Considering class of 2010 was like 59%, you think the economy improved that much? 65% maybe...70% would be almost pre ITE.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:13 am

johansantana21 wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:70% got biglaw SA lined up? Even factoring in no-offers, that sounds ridiculous ITE.

I go to DCN


I'm almost certain that we had more than 65 percent of the class spend their summer at a biglaw firm for Summer 2011. This year, it seems to have improved a little. I would be absolutely shocked if it was less than 70 percent.


Considering class of 2010 was like 59%, you think the economy improved that much? 65% maybe...70% would be almost pre ITE.


65 percent is a safe number. Might have already been 70 for summer of 2011. I think UChicago and Columbia were similar in terms of people having biglaw summer jobs. I thought that somebody posted the data for both schools on here. Let me see if I can find it.



This is for UChicago. There are discussions about Columbia in that thread too.

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Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:47 am

paul_m86 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:Columbia / Chicago. Wouldn't be surprised if at least 70 percent of the class got a biglaw SA lined up. Like I said, not that impressive and certainly not something bragworthy. Where do you go, bro? Sounds like you're kind of out of touch.


In addition to the extremely douchey employment trolling, OP is now egregiously anti-NYU trolling.


Nobody who is not deluded really and honestly thinks that NYU and Columbia are on the same levels.


Replace toby with paul in this video and that captures my feelings toward you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFHsF-zJy4

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby somewhatwayward » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:13 am

romothesavior wrote:You're an insufferable prick.

Somewhatwayward, please spread this thread around.


well i guess i was wrong about who he was bc i go to CLS, and we placed 80% through EIP last year (c/o 2012), and he's saying his school placed 65%, so it must be chicago....hmm maybe CLS is better than chicago?

ETA: unless he's, like, trying to throw us off track

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:19 am

somewhatwayward wrote:
romothesavior wrote:You're an insufferable prick.

Somewhatwayward, please spread this thread around.


well i guess i was wrong about who he was bc i go to CLS, and we placed 80% through EIP last year (c/o 2012), and he's saying his school placed 65%, so it must be chicago....hmm maybe CLS is better than chicago?

ETA: unless he's, like, trying to throw us off track


I said it was at least 65 percent, and the only way we placed 80 percent through EIP last year is if you include only the people that participated in EIP. The Chicago numbers (around 70 percent) include everybody at the school, even those who didn't participate in OCI.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby Michaela » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:56 am

Not like I was taking OP srsly before, but his 'tar pretty much solidifies that he's tRoLliN.

Now...back to motherfuckingcontracts.

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Postby somewhatwayward » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:19 am

paul_m86 wrote:I said it was at least 65 percent, and the only way we placed 80 percent through EIP last year is if you include only the people that participated in EIP. The Chicago numbers (around 70 percent) include everybody at the school, even those who didn't participate in OCI.


you're right - that was 80% of people who participated in EIP. ok well i think i am right about who you are, but the only thing i can't figure out is why you graduated college in 2010 if your bday is in 1986, which i'm assuming based on your sn. year off, i guess.

also, dude, you didn't even make law review

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:21 am

somewhatwayward wrote:
also, dude, you didn't even make law review


then I guess you don't know who I am

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Postby keg411 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:46 am

somewhatwayward wrote:
paul_m86 wrote:I said it was at least 65 percent, and the only way we placed 80 percent through EIP last year is if you include only the people that participated in EIP. The Chicago numbers (around 70 percent) include everybody at the school, even those who didn't participate in OCI.


you're right - that was 80% of people who participated in EIP. ok well i think i am right about who you are, but the only thing i can't figure out is why you graduated college in 2010 if your bday is in 1986, which i'm assuming based on your sn. year off, i guess.

also, dude, you didn't even make law review


I would guess that OP is a 1L. Or a troll who doesn't actually go to CC.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby somewhatwayward » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:55 am

are you the return of liltunechi?

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Postby ToTransferOrNot » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:32 pm

I think this douchebag's tar should result in a ban, basically because it provides an excuse. Vote?

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby vanwinkle » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:32 pm

He's an insufferable prick, but an insufferable prick that actually goes to one of CC.

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:38 pm

vanwinkle wrote:He's an insufferable prick, but an insufferable prick that actually goes to one of CC.


It's so hard to discern which when those are the two schools most known for attracting insufferable pricks . . .

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Re: Are successful/smart/hardworking students subsidizing others

Postby paul_m86 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:11 pm

mrloblaw wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:He's an insufferable prick, but an insufferable prick that actually goes to one of CC.


It's so hard to discern which when those are the two schools most known for attracting insufferable pricks . . .


sound a little bitter......

Don't act like you wouldn't jump at a chance to attend Columbia or Chicago.




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