romothesavior wrote:What is your point? Nothing you said really contradicts what Rayiner said. I think Rayiner hit it on the head with his overview of "midlaw."
"Midlaw" (or secondary market biglaw, if you will) is great. I was gunning for it when I came in, and I was fortunate enough to get it. I think it offers the best mixture of work, money, and life balance, and I think people should go for it if they get the opportunity. It certainly does exist, and for some of us, it is all we want (or even have a shot at). But the reason people say it is a "myth" is because there are so, so few opportunities in it. There are single firms in Chicago that have more summer associate positions than entire cities have. Kirkland and Sidley in Chicago, for example, have more summer associate sitions than the entire city of St. Louis has NLJ 250 SA positions.
I don't know what his point was, but one thing that he hit on, and one thing that I and many of my fellow 2L's discovered this year, is that a lot of Rayiner's (and many of his TLS high post contemporaries like Vamedic and vanwinkle etc.) blanket statements about hiring is just plain wrong. And I don't mean that in a "let's start a 20 page internet forum battle way" but I do want people to realize that their opinions/experiences are not the be all end all for hiring. For one they are dead wrong about NYC being the easiest place for everyone to land a biglaw job. Now that may be correct for what seems to be the largest demographic on this website (people from NYC/DC/California with grades close to the median at a top 14--whether that's above or below the median) but for others that's just not the case.
A lot of the advice that they, and many hardcore TLSer's give, is focused on someone with that demographic. But that's not everyone. What I and many of my peers found at UVA, is that if you are from a secondary market, that's basically your best bet for a job. Especially if you are from the South. Further, regardless of where you're from, but particularly if you're from a secondary market, if you have grades significantly below median (like a 3.1 or lower at UVA) NYC is REALLY not your friend. There are just too many law schools (many of them elite and with a stronger foothold/rep in NYC: see Columbia, NYU, Penn, Cornell ) sending grads to that market for you to be in a good place applying there with that profile. In addition, contrary to popular belief, NYC firms aren't as keen on people with secondary market written all over their resume as TLS likes you to think. And as big as their class sizes are (as TLS LOVES to stress) NYC firms are also some of the most inflexible when it comes to hard cutoffs. It's almost like they have computers that sift through resumes/transcripts and automatically toss those without certain hard credentials. 3.0 and below GPAs are a no go at NYC firms; I don't care how big the class size. 3.0 GPA from UVA, ties to Virginia, and interested in Richmond is another story. The same can be said for people from other Southern states who attend UVA. I'm sure that schools like /NU do the same in places like Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Detroit etc. for grads from those areas. My peers from non NYC/DC markets with poor grades who applied to their home markets got jobs. Those who bid heavily on NYC with those grades didn't. I almost messed myself up by bidding heavily on NYC.