Wade LeBosh wrote:You should re-read my post more closely, I wrote "indicative of nothing except they used to hire some law grads". That is different than indicative of "absolutely nothing".
Actually, it's not necessarily different, depending on how one interprets your comments. I thought your post meant that you were asserting that this only meant that they may have had some "clout" in the past, but this is the present and so is irrelevant today (or, alternatively, that the percentage was so low that again, it's irrelevant). I think that's a reasonable interpretation.
Wade LeBosh wrote:These are obviously old and incomplete surveys, but finding fully accurate employment data about most LS is difficult. Draw what conclusions you will from these numbers, but notice that a significantly lower percentage of grads reported from UM than UF. Perhaps the difference were so inundated with job offers they didn't have time to respond to the survey.
There is a difference in percentage of graduates reporting, but all of them, including UF, still have abysmally-low percentages of people reporting.
Having just graduated from UF, I can assure you that many people from UF are not inundated with job offers...they're lucky to be getting a job. It's bad out there!
Interesting link, thanks. But just because someone would do something to cover up their employment statistics, and UF/others won't, doesn't mean that they're much better than the other school. However, I agree with you that for most people, UF is the better option.
Wade LeBosh wrote:My point is that UM is not worth attending if you have the grades/scores to get into UF. The astronomical tuition and bleak prospects make it a strange choice for those with higher ranked options. My other point is those that believe UM will give you a shot at BigLaw are misinformed. A top GPA may get you an interview, but the school had nothing to do with it.
As stated above, I think UF is the better option for most. But for some, it's a solid option. For example, if you get a good scholarship there (and by "good," I mean virtually free, with no contingencies), and you didn't at other schools, it may be a safe bet, if other factors are present. (Because, having applied to over 20 schools when I was a 0L, I can tell you that scholarship amounts aren't as predictable as people like to think.) For one, you may not care about biglaw. And you have ties there. And perhaps you have a family there.
My only point is that I think it's good for people to see on TLS that there are good reasons to go to a lower-ranked school over a higher-ranked school, in many circumstances. You have to look at it on a case-by-case basis.