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High School Grades

Postby glcoupe » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:14 pm

I took AP Courses in high school and we contracted for college credit through a university. Do these grades count from high school towards my LSAC GPA or not?

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Re: High School Grades

Postby studebaker07 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:19 pm

Yes they absolutely count.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby ebeth » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:19 pm

No, they don't. And I'm being serious.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:23 pm

glcoupe wrote:I took AP Courses in high school and we contracted for college credit through a university. Do these grades count from high school towards my LSAC GPA or not?


Mine didn't, but it may depend on how they show up on your undergrad transcripts. Mine counted them for credit, but no grade.

They did show up on my LSAC Academic Summary as "Advanced Credits" under the "Notes From Transcript" section for my freshman year, but that's the only reference to them.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby lawgod » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:25 pm

They all count as 2.0

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Re: High School Grades

Postby AreJay711 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:27 pm

If you took the course at a community college or something it will count to your gpa but not if you took a an AP or IB test for credit.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby MoS » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:28 pm

It doesn't sound like it was "AP" but a dual credit class. And yes they do count for your LSAT GPA. If they are credits toward college before you earned your Bachelors then it is part of your LSAT GPA.

PS I like the last person am also serious. But call LSAC if your'd rather not believe me.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby eandy » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:29 pm

They don't count as a grade.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby ebeth » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:34 pm

MoS wrote:It doesn't sound like it was "AP" but a dual credit class. And yes they do count for your LSAT GPA. If they are credits toward college before you earned your Bachelors then it is part of your LSAT GPA.

PS I like the last person am also serious. But call LSAC if your'd rather not believe me.

I got college credit through numerous AP classes and they did not count towards my LSAC GPA.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby eandy » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:36 pm

Upon rereading the OP--if on your undergrad transcript there is a letter grade for those courses, they will count. If they say CR or something then no, they do not count.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby bgdddymtty » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:40 pm

ebeth wrote:No, they don't. And I'm being serious.
This is correct. You didn't get college credit for the class; you got college credit for the test for which the class was supposed to prepare you.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby MoS » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:41 pm

eandy wrote:Upon rereading the OP--if on your undergrad transcript there is a letter grade for those courses, they will count. If they say CR or something then no, they do not count.

This is far better articulated than my earlier response. This is the correct answer.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby studebaker07 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:50 pm

I guess I remember when I applied that on each report that was issued to the school, the community college that I received dual enrollment credit from while in law school was on there. That's why I am thinking that the classes I took while in high school for dual enrollment credit were included in my LSAC GPA.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:52 pm

Yes, if there was dual credit and you got CC credit, that would count. You'd need to submit a transcript from the CC to LSAC. I had some of these credits too. That's a totally different thing than AP credits.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby slacker » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:00 am

AP courses do not count. Courses taken through a university will.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby MRavvel » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:10 pm

Call LSAC.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby bdubs » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:13 pm

I got credit for my English courses which were contracted credit with the flagship state university in my home state. I actually had a transcript from the university with letter grades though.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby shoeshine » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:14 pm

Mine counted.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:23 pm

ebeth wrote:
MoS wrote:It doesn't sound like it was "AP" but a dual credit class. And yes they do count for your LSAT GPA. If they are credits toward college before you earned your Bachelors then it is part of your LSAT GPA.

PS I like the last person am also serious. But call LSAC if your'd rather not believe me.

I got college credit through numerous AP classes and they did not count towards my LSAC GPA.

I don't think you read the OP carefully enough. We're not talking about taking the AP test and then receiving credit for that test at a college, but rather taking an AP course that a college will grant you credit for; a lot of colleges have programs like this where they will join with local high schools to give college credit for advanced classes taken at those high schools. My high school had a number of classes like this through CU Boulder under a program called "CU Succeed," where AP Bio, AP Chem, and a couple other AP classes could get you credit from CU just by taking them and earning a minimum grade. These classes were the high school's AP classes and you could opt instead to take the AP exam to earn college credit, but if you agreed at the beginning of the course to do the "get credit from CU" route then it would count as a college class under LSAC's definition:
LSAC's list of which institutions you need to submiot transcripts from wrote:institutions from which you took college-level courses while in high school even though they were for high school credit


glcoupe, contact that college your high school contracted with and request your transcript from them.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby MRavvel » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:41 pm

LSAC wrote:[/url]"]institutions from which you took college-level courses while in high school even though they were for high school credit


This is silly. I went to a private high school. Starting junior year my teachers used "college-level" textbooks. Several of my teachers taught (TAs) at a T100 university nearby. Would LSAC expect me to send them my HIGH SCHOOL transcripts starting at junior year too? :shock: Not that I would, it's none of their damn business.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby Killingly » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:43 pm

Okay.

I can say, definitely, that if you took an AP course, took the AP test, and scored high enough to get college credit, that those credits do not show up on your UG transcript as a grade.

However, if you took an AP course and contracted for credit through a university (you would have had to pay a small fee for this - I did, at least), then that grade DOES show on your transcript. The transcript acts as if you took that course as a member of that university for that year. You would not have had to take the AP test, because you automatically earn the credit by completing the course with a high enough grade (for me, it was above a B-).

I have done both. The difference is that for one you take a test for credit, for the other you essentially "enroll" in a university for that class.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby Killingly » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:45 pm

Bildungsroman wrote: glcoupe, contact that college your high school contracted with and request your transcript from them.



Yes. Do this. If you graduated from the university that your high school contracted with, it will be done automatically.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:00 pm

MRavvel wrote:
LSAC wrote:[/url]"]institutions from which you took college-level courses while in high school even though they were for high school credit


This is silly. I went to a private high school. Starting junior year my teachers used "college-level" textbooks. Several of my teachers taught (TAs) at a T100 university nearby. Would LSAC expect me to send them my HIGH SCHOOL transcripts starting at junior year too? :shock: Not that I would, it's none of their damn business.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding their policy so that you can be pissed off or are you really that dense?

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Re: High School Grades

Postby Killingly » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:05 pm

slacker wrote:AP courses do not count. Courses taken through a university will.


For the OP's sake, I want to reiterate that an AP course can ALSO be a course taken through a university. Some high schools leave the option of university-specific credit or general AP transfer credit (provided you pass the test) up to the students. But, it's the same class.

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Re: High School Grades

Postby MRavvel » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:19 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
MRavvel wrote:
LSAC wrote:[/url]"]institutions from which you took college-level courses while in high school even though they were for high school credit


This is silly. I went to a private high school. Starting junior year my teachers used "college-level" textbooks. Several of my teachers taught (TAs) at a T100 university nearby. Would LSAC expect me to send them my HIGH SCHOOL transcripts starting at junior year too? :shock: Not that I would, it's none of their damn business.

Are you deliberately misunderstanding their policy so that you can be pissed off or are you really that dense?


I was half-joking because I wouldn't send them anyway. But seriously what does "college-level courses while in high school even though they were for high school credit" mean? What determines a "college-level course"? The guidelines are unclear and I was making a exaggeration.




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