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Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Sun May 15, 2011 11:28 am

Is Word necessary for law school? My understanding is that most exams (all exams?) will be typed directly into an exam taking program. Do you typically need Word for Legal Writing and Research? During undergrad I'd always type assignments into Open Office and if needed I'd just go to the library and convert it into a Word document. Will this work for law school?

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby albanach » Sun May 15, 2011 11:41 am

TheFutureLawyer wrote:Is Word necessary for law school? My understanding is that most exams (all exams?) will be typed directly into an exam taking program. Do you typically need Word for Legal Writing and Research? During undergrad I'd always type assignments into Open Office and if needed I'd just go to the library and convert it into a Word document. Will this work for law school?


Are you trying to save money, or do you simply prefer OpenOffice? Many schools seem to sell Office at a substantial discount - say for $10 meaning cost is probably not going to be part of the equation.

You might want to read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726517

I don't know how much has changed in the past couple of years.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby kalvano » Sun May 15, 2011 12:18 pm

Word can do your table of contents and footnotes and such for you. I don't know if OO can. Our LRW class, it was simply assumed you had Word.

But you can pick up Office with a student discount for like $80. It's not that expensive.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby PKSebben » Sun May 15, 2011 12:19 pm

kalvano wrote:Word can do your table of contents and footnotes and such for you. I don't know if OO can. Our LRW class, it was simply assumed you had Word.

But you can pick up Office with a student discount for like $80. It's not that expensive.


Sometimes even cheaper -- as much as I'm an open-source, open office guy -- you need Word. Plus, you need to learn all that stupid formatting shit for when you (hopefully) go get a j0rb.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby PinkCow » Sun May 15, 2011 12:28 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:Is Word necessary for law school? My understanding is that most exams (all exams?) will be typed directly into an exam taking program. Do you typically need Word for Legal Writing and Research? During undergrad I'd always type assignments into Open Office and if needed I'd just go to the library and convert it into a Word document. Will this work for law school?



Brah if you're dropping down tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for an education, you might as well spend the ~$80 and get Word. I tried surviving off of Open Office during undergrad, and it was too much of a hassle. Granted, my school gave word for $8 dollars, but I'm sure you can find it for cheaper than $80.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Sun May 15, 2011 12:35 pm

PKSebben wrote:
kalvano wrote:Word can do your table of contents and footnotes and such for you. I don't know if OO can. Our LRW class, it was simply assumed you had Word.

But you can pick up Office with a student discount for like $80. It's not that expensive.


Sometimes even cheaper -- as much as I'm an open-source, open office guy -- you need Word. Plus, you need to learn all that stupid formatting shit for when you (hopefully) go get a j0rb.


Yeah I saw I could get it for $80, just wasn't sure how necessary it was.

To albanach: what school sells office (or do you mean just word?) for $10?

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby Curry » Sun May 15, 2011 12:40 pm

Open Office is done now. All the programmers left for LibreOffice.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby deadpoetnsp » Sun May 15, 2011 12:41 pm

Why Word or OpenOffice or even LibreOffice? Real programmers use LaTex ;)

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby Curry » Sun May 15, 2011 12:54 pm

deadpoetnsp wrote:Why Word or OpenOffice or even LibreOffice? Real programmers use LaTex ;)

Latex is ridiculously awesome. Wish I had learned to use it at an early age.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby PinkCow » Sun May 15, 2011 12:57 pm

deadpoetnsp wrote:Why Word or OpenOffice or even LibreOffice? Real programmers use LaTex ;)


During all of my required CS times, I refused to learn LaTex and instead chose to use the functions in Office. One of my bigger mistakes in recent memory.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby kalvano » Sun May 15, 2011 1:09 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:
PKSebben wrote:
kalvano wrote:Word can do your table of contents and footnotes and such for you. I don't know if OO can. Our LRW class, it was simply assumed you had Word.

But you can pick up Office with a student discount for like $80. It's not that expensive.


Sometimes even cheaper -- as much as I'm an open-source, open office guy -- you need Word. Plus, you need to learn all that stupid formatting shit for when you (hopefully) go get a j0rb.


Yeah I saw I could get it for $80, just wasn't sure how necessary it was.

To albanach: what school sells office (or do you mean just word?) for $10?



Don't skimp, get Office. Onenote alone is worth $80.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby ahduth » Sun May 15, 2011 1:52 pm

kalvano wrote:Don't skimp, get Office. Onenote alone is worth $80.


On the topic of Onenote, this poster thinks 2010 is far superior to 2007:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=127496

I already have 2007, is the consensus that upgrading to 2010 would be worth the money? 80 dollars is a pittance if it will raise my grade a single notch in a single class.

Also, it looks... kinda complicated. Do I need to learn how to use it before I show up? Generally I've always taken notes by hand - I find the process of writing it down then trying to decipher them later really aids in my retention. Given what everyone says about exams hewing closely to the content of the lectures however, it seems like a more structured approach (like Onenote) might be required?

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby albanach » Sun May 15, 2011 2:08 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:
To albanach: what school sells office (or do you mean just word?) for $10?


UVA for one, though apparently it's $15

http://itc-web.itc.virginia.edu/softwar ... _nojs.html

I'd expect at least some other schools to have similar deals and Google seems to confirm this:

http://www.sru.edu/academics/iats/Suppo ... wsers.aspx
http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?a ... tory=57467

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby quakeroats » Sun May 15, 2011 2:10 pm

Duke has it and most other software you'd need for the low price of $0.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby kalvano » Sun May 15, 2011 2:24 pm

ahduth wrote:
kalvano wrote:Don't skimp, get Office. Onenote alone is worth $80.


On the topic of Onenote, this poster thinks 2010 is far superior to 2007:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=127496

I already have 2007, is the consensus that upgrading to 2010 would be worth the money? 80 dollars is a pittance if it will raise my grade a single notch in a single class.


As far as I know, the main difference in 2010 versus 2007 (according to Microsoft) is cloud connectivity. I don't think the actual program changed much.

ahduth wrote:Also, it looks... kinda complicated. Do I need to learn how to use it before I show up? Generally I've always taken notes by hand - I find the process of writing it down then trying to decipher them later really aids in my retention. Given what everyone says about exams hewing closely to the content of the lectures however, it seems like a more structured approach (like Onenote) might be required?



No. Onenote looks hard, but is astonishingly easy once you start using it. I was skeptical at first, but it makes Word seem like the fat kid on the block who always gets picked last for sports. It took me about 30 minutes to learn it. The included tutorials are super helpful.

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Re: Is Microsoft Word necessary?

Postby niederbomb » Mon May 16, 2011 12:20 am

What is wrong with just getting a copy of Word?

Seriously, if you want to save pennies, consider cutting out hookers or beer. You're going to need Word for a variety of tasks. Open Office is bug addled, crash prone, and it has ceaseless compatibility issues that are inscrutable to the average computer user.

Just get Word. If you have no ethics, get on the Internet, do a google search ending in "torrent," and you'll find everything you need. If you have friends and a fear of the FBI, borrow a CD and install it on your computer. If you have ethics, get the $10 copy another poster talked about.




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