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Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby AlanShoreDisciple » Wed May 11, 2011 2:18 am

I was wondering if there is any correlation between where an individual attended law school, and making partner in big law.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby dissonance1848 » Wed May 11, 2011 2:32 am

Are you kidding? Of course. Poor flame.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby Knock » Wed May 11, 2011 2:45 am

AlanShoreDisciple wrote:I was wondering if there is any correlation between where an individual attended law school, and making partner in big law.


0L disclosure, but from what i've researched, i've gathered the impression that making partner is more about your work product, meeting certain levels of billable hours, and possibly how much business you bring to the firm. The law school you attend is important in getting you a job as an associate, but it's not going to make a significant impact on getting you promoted to partner.
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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby sundance95 » Wed May 11, 2011 2:46 am

Knock wrote:
AlanShoreDisciple wrote:I was wondering if there is any correlation between where an individual attended law school, and making partner in big law.


0L disclosure, but from what i've researched, i've gathered the impression that making partner is more about your work product, meeting certain levels of billable hours, and possibly how much business you bring to the firm. The law school you attend is more important in getting you a job as an associate, but it's not going to make a significant impact on getting you promoted to partner.

I'm under the impression that the bolded is the #1 factor re whether one makes partner.


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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby Samara » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:41 pm

Really? No one ITT reads ATL? Here's a recent story on school rankings by biglaw partners. --LinkRemoved--

Just keep in mind that correlation is not causation, self-selection may be a significant factor, and the school that is best for you may not correlate with these rankings.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby stratocophic » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:04 pm

Samara wrote:Really? No one ITT reads ATL? Here's a recent story on school rankings by biglaw partners. --LinkRemoved--

Just keep in mind that correlation is not causation, self-selection may be a significant factor, and the school that is best for you may not correlate with these rankings.
Maybe if you had let them borrow your DeLorean before they posted in this thread, McFly.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby typ3 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:20 pm

Samara wrote:Really? No one ITT reads ATL? Here's a recent story on school rankings by biglaw partners. --LinkRemoved--

Just keep in mind that correlation is not causation, self-selection may be a significant factor, and the school that is best for you may not correlate with these rankings.


Exactly. T-14 is more likely to get you into the door for a big law firm. Therefore, those schools will have the most graduates who are partners.

T-14 gets you in the door. It's up for you to earn your keep. Hence it is not uncommon to hear of someone from a non T-14 school making partner simply because they are a rain maker and bring in / bill work like mad.

I'll spoil the ending. Clients don't care where you graduate from- only your work product. Firms are the same way once you become an associate.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby mommamia » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:42 pm

Looking at the article, I feel it is written to promote Loyola, L.A, where the author of the study works (TaxProfBlog). Propaganda

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby lawyerwannabe » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:48 pm

There are a few problems with this study (I am sure there are more but this is what comes to mind):

- it favors big classes because class size is not factored in (is it really that surprising that Georgetown is #2 author?)
- it does not measure the ability to attain partner from a school, simply which school has produced the most partners
- it reports that number of BigLaw partners at one time, not the number of people from different schools who have, at one point, attained partnership over the last X years

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby Samara » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:51 pm

stratocophic wrote:
Samara wrote:Really? No one ITT reads ATL? Here's a recent story on school rankings by biglaw partners. --LinkRemoved--

Just keep in mind that correlation is not causation, self-selection may be a significant factor, and the school that is best for you may not correlate with these rankings.
Maybe if you had let them borrow your DeLorean before they posted in this thread, McFly.

Haha, touche, I didn't realize this was a necroed thread.

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby nealric » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:36 pm

- it favors big classes because class size is not factored in (is it really that surprising that Georgetown is #2 author?)


If you trust the math of the comment posters, Georgetown is #3 per capita:

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/law-scho ... s#comments

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby Helmholtz » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:41 pm

nealric wrote:
- it favors big classes because class size is not factored in (is it really that surprising that Georgetown is #2 author?)


If you trust the math of the comment posters, Georgetown is #3 per capita:

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/law-scho ... s#comments


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=162542

Wonder whose math is better....

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Re: Big Law Partners and Law School Ranking

Postby nealric » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:56 pm

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=162542

Wonder whose math is better....


To do it right, you would also need historic class size data.




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