Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

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Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby lincolnadams74 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:07 pm

Many people on this website say that law schools outside the US News Top 14 are less national and more regional in reputation.

What data provides the best support for this statement? I agree with the idea because it makes sense. I just need hard data or some evidence that I can reference.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby CanadianWolf » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:12 pm

Hiring/placement data from the law schools.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby aliarrow » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:14 pm

I put this thread together a couple weeks ago, might be of interest to you

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=150843

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby lincolnadams74 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:57 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Hiring/placement data from the law schools.


In other words, no one, single place that somehow indicates this? It's more of a broad consensus by individually examining placement data of each school?

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby Grizz » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:14 pm

Anyone who says "T14 = national, everything else = regional" is dumb. It's not as simple as people make it seem. Where you can get a job from a given school depends on

1) grades
2) your ties to the region you're targeting
3) your school's name band prestige in the region you're targeting

T14 schools happen to be high on 3.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby lincolnadams74 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:32 am

rad law wrote:Anyone who says "T14 = national, everything else = regional" is dumb. It's not as simple as people make it seem. Where you can get a job from a given school depends on

1) grades
2) your ties to the region you're targeting
3) your school's name band prestige in the region you're targeting

T14 schools happen to be high on 3.


Thanks for this info.

Basically, I have people telling me I should go to Washington University in St. Louis instead of Boston College, because it is higher in USN and thus "more national."

I guess I'm just confused about the whole USN rankings, because some people treat it like the holy gospel, but to me it's largely subjective and in many cases useless, in terms of job prospects.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby stratocophic » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:50 am

lincolnadams74 wrote:
rad law wrote:Anyone who says "T14 = national, everything else = regional" is dumb. It's not as simple as people make it seem. Where you can get a job from a given school depends on

1) grades
2) your ties to the region you're targeting
3) your school's name band prestige in the region you're targeting

T14 schools happen to be high on 3.


Thanks for this info.

Basically, I have people telling me I should go to Washington University in St. Louis instead of Boston College, because it is higher in USN and thus "more national."

I guess I'm just confused about the whole USN rankings, because some people treat it like the holy gospel, but to me it's largely subjective and in many cases useless, in terms of job prospects.
Dude, I dunno who's telling you that but this ain't undergrad. USNWR is the worst reason to pick a law school this side of the Cooley rankings. The whole better ranking = more national thing doesn't apply (at least, not enough to be worth deciding based solely on that criteria) from WashU down if the 2 schools are within 10-15 spots of each other. Go to BC.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby bearsfan1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:54 am

stratocophic wrote:
lincolnadams74 wrote:
rad law wrote:Anyone who says "T14 = national, everything else = regional" is dumb. It's not as simple as people make it seem. Where you can get a job from a given school depends on

1) grades
2) your ties to the region you're targeting
3) your school's name band prestige in the region you're targeting

T14 schools happen to be high on 3.


Thanks for this info.

Basically, I have people telling me I should go to Washington University in St. Louis instead of Boston College, because it is higher in USN and thus "more national."

I guess I'm just confused about the whole USN rankings, because some people treat it like the holy gospel, but to me it's largely subjective and in many cases useless, in terms of job prospects.
Dude, I dunno who's telling you that but this ain't undergrad. USNWR is the worst reason to pick a law school this side of the Cooley rankings. The whole better ranking = more national thing doesn't apply (at least, not enough to be worth deciding based solely on that criteria) from WashU down if the 2 schools are within 10-15 spots of each other. Go to BC.


Agree with his synoposis. But only go to BC if you want Boston or a job on the east coast. Go to WashU if you want a job in the midwest. I wouldn't attend WashU with the expectation of working in STL without a connection to STL though.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby Emma1 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:03 pm

Vanderbilt ( ranked 16) claims they have a national reputation and place grads all over the country.
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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby aliarrow » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:09 pm

Emma1 wrote:Vanderbilt ( ranked 16) claims they have a national reputation and place grads all over the country.


In all fairness, most schools claim this and state you can go anywhere your heart desires after graduation. But I'll admit Vanderbilt appears to be one of the most national Non-T14s.

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Re: Proof that law schools outside Top 14 are regional

Postby HeavenWood » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:47 pm

lincolnadams74 wrote:Many people on this website say that law schools outside the US News Top 14 are less national and more regional in reputation.

What data provides the best support for this statement? I agree with the idea because it makes sense. I just need hard data or some evidence that I can reference.


Even most T14s are semi-regional.




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