Curry wrote: DoubleChecks wrote:
Curry wrote:Look at the firms that come to Texas OCI. Look at the firms that go to Berkeley OCI. Look at the top firms around the country and count the number of Berkeley associates/partners. Now do the same for Texas.
Berkeley doesn't have better placement because its a higher ranked school. Its a higher ranked school because it has better placement.
you're just not understanding my point -- read alex's post below yours, he gets it
Read it. Even then, my point stands. Berkeley places a sizeable portion of its grads across the country. Texas does not. Thats why Berkeley is considered a t14 school while Texas, even though its ranked 14, will never be associated with that term (especially because t14 = schools that have been in the top 10).
As for Stanford placing more than Berkeley, that argument is stupid
. Stanford is a BETTER school than Berkeley. Its why we have HLS CCN MVPB etc. Berkeley places the same as its peers does. Texas doesn't come close to placing the same as those schools.
Isn't that YOUR argument when comparing Berk to TX? Need I dissect all your posts? Fine, I'll do it.
Your first one about Berk allowing its students to place nationally (assuming they have the grades) is a stupid comment because TX allows its students to be placed nationally (assuming they have the grades
). Yes, top 10% TX can place nationally (esp. considering I was talking about pre-ITE even)! Berk prob doesn't need as high of a class ranking, but that wasn't your statement.
Your second comment comparing Berk partners and TX is even dumber. Even you admit it is a stupid argument. Hey look, Harvard has more associates/partners around the country than Berk...Berk must not be T14 material. Oh and I never said Berk has better placement because it is a higher ranked school. My whole point was comparing the two is stupid BECAUSE Berk is a much better school.
It isn't about comparing Berk to TX. It is the question of whether TX places enough
grads around the country to be a T14, or maybe even whether it has the national reach
that similarly ranked schools in the bottom of the T14 do. The only comparisons, albeit still difficult ones to make due to geographic constraints, would be between TX and GULC, Cornell, etc. and maybe even Vandy for counter-point purposes. You finally hit the nail on the head at the end -- yes, a more poignant argument would be how TX places relative to its peers in the T14.