Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby jpSartre » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:50 am

Bildungsroman wrote:A bunch of Georgetown students thought it up as a "fuck you" to their friends at UCLA.



this actually isnt not funny

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby Bless » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:12 pm

I wasTHISCLOSE to making a thread on this, but decided to use the search button. I was going to ask almost verbatim as to how OP did.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:24 pm

Bless wrote:I wasTHISCLOSE to making a thread on this, but decided to use the search button. I was going to ask almost verbatim as to how OP did.


Is this serious, or are you insinuating that OP should have used the search button?

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:35 pm

Hank Chill wrote:Why can't it be the T13 or the T15 that is considered the best? When did the law school gods designate the T14 as the top schools?


OP is mad because his school Texas isn't in the T14. Too bad.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby lolschool2011 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:39 pm

Hank Chill wrote:Why can't it be the T13 or the T15 that is considered the best? When did the law school gods designate the T14 as the top schools?


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TL;DR, what it boils down to is that it's all just marketing.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby Hank Chill » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:49 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
Hank Chill wrote:Why can't it be the T13 or the T15 that is considered the best? When did the law school gods designate the T14 as the top schools?


OP is mad because his school Texas isn't in the T14. Too bad.


No. The rankings are bullshit. Fourteen is just a weird number of things to group together. When we group things it tends to be in multiples of five. It would make more sense for the T5 or the T10 to be the most commonly referenced 'elite group'. A group of fourteen is odd and uncommon. I was wondering if it was an arbitrary number or if there was some greater reasoning behind it.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:50 pm

Hank Chill wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:
Hank Chill wrote:Why can't it be the T13 or the T15 that is considered the best? When did the law school gods designate the T14 as the top schools?


OP is mad because his school Texas isn't in the T14. Too bad.


No. The rankings are bullshit. Fourteen is just a weird number of things to group together. When we group things it tends to be in multiples of five. It would make more sense for the T5 or the T10 to be the most commonly referenced 'elite group'. A group of fourteen is odd and uncommon. I was wondering if it was an arbitrary number or if there was some greater reasoning behind it.


It's not arbitrary. Read the thread mang.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby Alex-Trof » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:53 pm

Hank Chill wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:
Hank Chill wrote:Why can't it be the T13 or the T15 that is considered the best? When did the law school gods designate the T14 as the top schools?


OP is mad because his school Texas isn't in the T14. Too bad.


No. The rankings are bullshit. Fourteen is just a weird number of things to group together. When we group things it tends to be in multiples of five. It would make more sense for the T5 or the T10 to be the most commonly referenced 'elite group'. A group of fourteen is odd and uncommon. I was wondering if it was an arbitrary number or if there was some greater reasoning behind it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_school ... the_top_14

The link explains it.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:54 pm

retake wrote:Don't worry. When you go to law school, you can change around the distinction for "elite" however much you want. Go to Stanford? Well I guess only the T3 are the true elites. Chicago? Well, maybe T5 is where there's a real drop off. USC? Well I heard T18 is the new T14 in trendier circles. :roll:


hahaha this is so effing true. i've seen people going to michigan telling people on TLS that they got into a T9

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby 09042014 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:08 pm

You guys get your cause and effect wrong.

The schools in the t14 were elite before USNews. T14 became a think because they were elite.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:10 pm

Desert Fox wrote:You guys get your cause and effect wrong.

The schools in the t14 were elite before USNews. T14 became a think because they were elite.


Georgetown is elite?

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Re: Why is it the T14 the 'elite'?

Postby patrickd139 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:11 pm

rad law wrote:Image





HTH

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:12 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You guys get your cause and effect wrong.

The schools in the t14 were elite before USNews. T14 became a think because they were elite.


Georgetown is elite?


oh SNAP

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby 09042014 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:19 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You guys get your cause and effect wrong.

The schools in the t14 were elite before USNews. T14 became a think because they were elite.


Georgetown is elite?


Slowly losing it's brand because it's too large of a school, but it used to be pretty elite. If they halved their student number they could probably make a play for top 10.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:26 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:You guys get your cause and effect wrong.

The schools in the t14 were elite before USNews. T14 became a think because they were elite.


Georgetown is elite?


Slowly losing it's brand because it's too large of a school, but it used to be pretty elite. If they halved their student number they could probably make a play for top 10.


Cornell is elite?

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby flcath » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:38 pm

It's a term coined in 2001 to designate the 14 schools that had nearly exclusively retained (switched around within, but dominated) the top 14 spots in the USNews rankings.

The schools were elite long before the term existed, though it doesn't seem like any delineation was made b/t GULC and Texas.

It's been obfuscated in recent years by the fact that they are no longer the 14 best schools in America, which would seem to have been a necessary requirement (Vandy is now significantly superior to GULC).

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby patrickd139 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:52 pm

flcath wrote:It's a term coined in 2001 to designate the 14 schools that had nearly exclusively retained (switched around within, but dominated) the top 14 spots in the USNews rankings.

You realize this is incorrect, yes?

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby flcath » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:58 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
flcath wrote:It's a term coined in 2001 to designate the 14 schools that had nearly exclusively retained (switched around within, but dominated) the top 14 spots in the USNews rankings.

You realize this is incorrect, yes?

How so? If I recall, UCLA broke into the top 14 once back in the 90s.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby patrickd139 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:03 pm

flcath wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
flcath wrote:It's a term coined in 2001 to designate the 14 schools that had nearly exclusively retained (switched around within, but dominated) the top 14 spots in the USNews rankings.

You realize this is incorrect, yes?

How so? If I recall, UCLA broke into the top 14 once back in the 90s.

The schools which currently make up the top 14 are the only schools to have broken into the top 10 (at one point or another) rankings since their inception. This was already covered somewhere earlier ITT, but I'm too lazy to find and quote it.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby Bless » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:04 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
Bless wrote:I wasTHISCLOSE to making a thread on this, but decided to use the search button. I was going to ask almost verbatim as to how OP did.


Is this serious, or are you insinuating that OP should have used the search button?

Dead serious. I came across this thread after using the search button.


And I learned that I rightfully predicted that "14" was a bullshit number. I love how pretentious some of the TLS'ers are about the whole T14 thing.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby flcath » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:07 pm

patrickd139 wrote:
flcath wrote:
patrickd139 wrote:
flcath wrote:It's a term coined in 2001 to designate the 14 schools that had nearly exclusively retained (switched around within, but dominated) the top 14 spots in the USNews rankings.

You realize this is incorrect, yes?

How so? If I recall, UCLA broke into the top 14 once back in the 90s.

The schools which currently make up the top 14 are the only schools to have broken into the top 10 (at one point or another) rankings since their inception. This was already covered somewhere earlier ITT, but I'm too lazy to find and quote it.

Wikipedia says otherwise. If you can find a better source, you are welcome to.

Also, the plain meaning of the term "top 14" is, well, the top 14 schools.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:08 pm

Bless wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
Bless wrote:I wasTHISCLOSE to making a thread on this, but decided to use the search button. I was going to ask almost verbatim as to how OP did.


Is this serious, or are you insinuating that OP should have used the search button?

Dead serious. I came across this thread after using the search button.


And I learned that I rightfully predicted that "14" was a bullshit number. I love how pretentious some of the TLS'ers are about the whole T14 thing.


uuuuuuhhh, i did not gather that from this thread at all.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby flcath » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:10 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
Bless wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
Bless wrote:I wasTHISCLOSE to making a thread on this, but decided to use the search button. I was going to ask almost verbatim as to how OP did.


Is this serious, or are you insinuating that OP should have used the search button?

Dead serious. I came across this thread after using the search button.


And I learned that I rightfully predicted that "14" was a bullshit number. I love how pretentious some of the TLS'ers are about the whole T14 thing.


uuuuuuhhh, i did not gather that from this thread at all.

I actually think that 14 was a very meaningful number when the term was coined.

Now 13 (or, in the other direction, 17 or 18) would be more meaningful.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby Bless » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:10 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:uuuuuuhhh, i did not gather that from this thread at all.

Well, I'll clarify what I meant. There is no significant difference in going to the 14th best and 15th best law school.

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Re: Why is it that the T14 is the 'elite'?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:13 pm

flcath wrote:I actually think that 14 was a very meaningful number when the term was coined.

Now 13 (or, in the other direction, 17 or 18) would be more meaningful.


I guess we've determined Georgetown is officially a POS then?




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