Tier 2 double the price of TTT

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Alek
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Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby Alek » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:49 pm

According to this jerk it is worst than a waste of time to attend a TTT.

But to go to an out-of-state tier 2 school doubles the sticker price of an in-state TTT, for example 17k annually to 33k. Is that price really worth the 30-odd spots from the bottom of the tier 2 you might be?

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Re: Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby mrwarre85 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:59 pm

Alek wrote:According to this jerk it is worst than a waste of time to attend a TTT.

But to go to an out-of-state tier 2 school doubles the sticker price of an in-state TTT, for example 17k annually to 33k. Is that price really worth the 30-odd spots from the bottom of the tier 2 you might be?


Don't worry about rankings if you don't want a Biglaw job. Do well in law school, make connections, and get a job.

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Re: Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby LurkerNoMore » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:02 pm

Alek wrote:According to this jerk it is worst than a waste of time to attend a TTT.

But to go to an out-of-state tier 2 school doubles the sticker price of an in-state TTT, for example 17k annually to 33k. Is that price really worth the 30-odd spots from the bottom of the tier 2 you might be?


No. But the answer here is that they are both generally bad decisions, not that one of them is good.

USNWR is ok for dividing up schools into national/regional/everything else. Beyond that you need to do your own legwork and determine:

1. Where you want to practice.
2. What law schools in that area have good reputations within the local legal community.
3. How much it would cost you to go to these schools.
4. What the chances are that you will actually get get a job from these schools.
5. What the realistic salary is from these schools.
6. Whether the cost is justified on the basis of the likely job prospects.

Unfortunately, the cost of law school generally bears little relationship to your chances of recouping the investment.

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Re: Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby Grizz » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:48 pm

Alek wrote:According to this jerk it is worst than a waste of time to attend a TTT.

But to go to an out-of-state tier 2 school doubles the sticker price of an in-state TTT, for example 17k annually to 33k. Is that price really worth the 30-odd spots from the bottom of the tier 2 you might be?


Depends on what T2 and TTT.

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Re: Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby Alek » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:08 pm

I live in Cleveland, Ohio. Others might not find the prospect of working in the C-towns exciting (Cinci, Columbus, and Cleveland) but I do. Ultimately I would like to work in a DAs office in one of those areas. I'm concerned that competition for those government jobs are just as fierce as Biglaw. Honestly I just don't know what types of jobs are out there in small firms and boutiques either.

Paying 40k annual tuition for a low tier 1 or high tier 2 school looks like a possibility. Could a career started at a DAs office or smaller firm tackle that? How hard is it to get in an DA office where you've never lived? I'm not being flippant when I say I'd rather enlist in the military right now than be unable to pay off student debt. I have no debt from UG or my car though.

rad law wrote:
Alek wrote:According to this jerk it is worst than a waste of time to attend a TTT.

But to go to an out-of-state tier 2 school doubles the sticker price of an in-state TTT, for example 17k annually to 33k. Is that price really worth the 30-odd spots from the bottom of the tier 2 you might be?


Depends on what T2 and TTT.

Let's say... Penn State compared to Cleveland-Marshall.
...Or perhaps U. of Akron, a TTT that supposedly specializes in trial advocacy.

*EDIT*- I'll just be straightforward here, being an assistant DA sounds like a fucking blast. My mother was a cop and my dad's a manager... I'd gladly avoid the petty politics and glad-handing for a workplace with more community and more interesting duties.

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Re: Tier 2 double the price of TTT

Postby LurkerNoMore » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:23 pm

Ok, you've knocked number 1 off the list I made. Now you've got to go through the rest of it.

Start talking to ADAs. Seriously. Don't waste your time talking to us. Reach out to ADAs in some of the markets you are interested in working in and ask questions. What school did they go to? What schools are looked favorably upon in their office? How much does class rank weigh into their hiring decisions? Are they on a hiring freeze? Do they require experience before they hire? If so, what kind? For how many years?

Once you get that information, you'll have a better sense about the rank of the schools you are interested in. Oh, and don't go by what schools say they specialize in. That is marketing fluff. Actual reputation in the field is what matters.

Next you will need to see what these schools will cost you. This is not just a matter of what the sticker price is. Depending on your GPA and LSAT score, you could get scholarships. Compare bottom line to bottom line, not sticker to sticker.

After that you need to make your own risk calculus.




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