Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

(Please Ask Questions and Answer Questions)

Is law school worth sticker to you?

Yes
297
60%
No
194
40%
 
Total votes: 491

Nailjohnj
Posts: 117
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:40 am

Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby Nailjohnj » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:04 pm

This isn't a question for myself, but rather a question posed to the TLS population. Call it a psychological survey of debt aversion in potential and current law students.

I have seen alot of "is X Law School worth sticker" threads and it seems the overwhelming response is "If it isn't T-14, then no it isn't". But every year, thousands of law students go to every level of law school and pay full tuition and COL. So I have to ask, where is the cut off line between worth sticker and not to you? Do you have such a line?

I know everyone's situation is different. So, instead of making overly general statements about everybody else, I am just curious what is your personal decision on the matter and where is your cut off for paying sticker or not. To answer, state your target school range (T-14, Lower Tier 1, Tier 2, etc.), where you consider worth the sticker and if you didn't get into your target schools, how far would you drop in tiers to avoid full-tuition. And finally, would you attend law school if there was NO chance of scholarship (at any level)?

I'll start:

Low Tier 1/ Tier 2
I believe most schools in the t-100 are worth sticker in their respective regions
I am considering a few local tier 3 schools because of potential scholarship offers, but would pay sticker at low tier 1 schools in the right area
Yes, I would

Anyone else?

dissonance1848
Posts: 706
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:42 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby dissonance1848 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:12 pm

Its only worth taking schollies if there are no grade requirements for keeping them. If there are, all bets are off, you can't be assured you would get great grades, and if you could, then you should go to as high a ranked school as possible given where you wish to practice, since the competition is not that different from tier to tier.

LSAT + UGPA = 20% of 1L rank variance, which is weak at best.

My two cents.

HeavenWood
Posts: 2915
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby HeavenWood » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:04 pm

I'd only pay sticker for a T14.

dakatz
Posts: 2460
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:19 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby dakatz » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:05 pm

HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.

HeavenWood
Posts: 2915
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby HeavenWood » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:11 pm

dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.

dakatz
Posts: 2460
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:19 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby dakatz » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:16 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.


Well then that will certainly open quite a few options for you. Based on your stats, my guess as to your highest acceptances will probably be something like GW or perhaps USC. Both very expensive schools, but if $ isn't a problem, then it will be nice to be able to choose a school like that.

krad
Posts: 1897
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:33 am

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby krad » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:19 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.


Damn I wish I was in your boat. I'm going to be looking for that balance too...

...unless I get my dream reach in NU then it's $$$+COL/year guh. :oops:

edited font size for effect.

HeavenWood
Posts: 2915
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby HeavenWood » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:20 pm

dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.


Well then that will certainly open quite a few options for you. Based on your stats, my guess as to your highest acceptances will probably be something like GW or perhaps USC. Both very expensive schools, but if $ isn't a problem, then it will be nice to be able to choose a school like that.


Unless I strike gold at Penn, Boalt, or Cornell, I predict I'll be picking between BU and GW (and I'll take whichever one gives me more $). I don't even know why I applied to USC. Oh wait, yes I do. My stubborn-as-fuck grandfather insisted its #18 ranking gives it loads of East Coast prestige (where I want to work)--oh wait--it doesn't.

dakatz
Posts: 2460
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:19 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby dakatz » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:24 pm

Yeah, once you get out of those top few schools, ranking really doesn't matter. You want to go for the school that has the best reputation, alumni network, placement statistics, etc. in the region where you want to work. Its good that you know that already, and aren't fooled by a mere number that will carry little weight on the East Coast.

User avatar
4for44
Posts: 209
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:05 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby 4for44 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:25 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.


so why did you answer! haha Yes... paying sticker is a much more important consideration when its you (not parents or others) paying.

Perspective matters... I'm a fan of Expected value- and seeing the employment prospects for lower T14 would scare the hell out of me at sticker...

User avatar
homestyle28
Posts: 2312
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:48 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby homestyle28 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:25 pm

I voted Yes, but with some reservations. I'm looking at near 250k in debt all said and done and want to do PI. It's worth it to me b/c of LRAP. If things stay where they are currently my 250k up front costs will be <50k in 10 years. So, that's worth it to me.

HeavenWood
Posts: 2915
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby HeavenWood » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:27 pm

4for44 wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:
dakatz wrote:
HeavenWood wrote:I'd only pay sticker for a T14.


I wouldn't even pay sticker for a T10 school. 200K in debt simply does not compute in my mental calculator. I knew I wanted to graduate will little to no debt and still go to a good school. I was all about finding a balance, not going to either extreme.


I'm finishing UG with zero debt, and my law school will be 100% taken care of, but if that were not the case, I openly concede that my outlook would be much different.


so why did you answer! haha Yes... paying sticker is a much more important consideration when its you (not parents or others) paying.

Perspective matters... I'm a fan of Expected value- and seeing the employment prospects for lower T14 would scare the hell out of me at sticker...


I swallowed enough of my pride attending a second banana state school on scholly. I'm entitled to a little prestige whoring :mrgreen:.

User avatar
moopness
Posts: 310
Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:56 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby moopness » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:15 pm

t6 only

User avatar
Dex
Posts: 93
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:12 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby Dex » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:29 pm

T10 only.

concurrent fork
Posts: 669
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:40 am

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby concurrent fork » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:10 pm

moopness wrote:t6 only

User avatar
Thirteen
Posts: 23843
Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:53 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby Thirteen » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:13 pm

I'm a 1L, but would have paid sticker at T14 + UT (in-state), and would have considered paying it at Vandy.

User avatar
icouldbuyu
Posts: 254
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:52 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby icouldbuyu » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:18 pm

T10 with Boalt as the exception

whymeohgodno
Posts: 2508
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:15 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby whymeohgodno » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:13 pm

HYS

User avatar
Seally
Posts: 62
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:50 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby Seally » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:34 pm

To me anything after the Top 6 is not worth sticker.

But i'd go sticker at any T14 if i had the choice between Sticker T14 and TTT/TTTT School Full rides.

firemed
Posts: 1195
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:36 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby firemed » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:39 pm

I would pay sticker at T3... otherwise no.

In fact, I would take full ride without grade requirements at T3 before 1/2 tuition with grade requirements @4-25....

User avatar
dailygrind
Posts: 19635
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:08 am

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby dailygrind » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:52 pm

your use of T3 could use some tightening.

User avatar
twert
Posts: 414
Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:13 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby twert » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:05 pm

i would only pay sticker at harvard yale and stanford. I would not pay a dime for anything below vandy

User avatar
AreJay711
Posts: 3406
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:51 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby AreJay711 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:18 pm

People on here are really debt adverse, probably more so than really makes sense. I guess if you just really want a lot of money at biglaw vs. just looking at averages the it could make sense. I'd pay sticker through the t20 if it was go to law school now or never go to go to law school.

rundoxierun
Posts: 1893
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:46 am

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby rundoxierun » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:22 pm

AreJay711 wrote:People on here are really debt adverse, probably more so than really makes sense. I guess if you just really want a lot of money at biglaw vs. just looking at averages the it could make sense. I'd pay sticker through the t20 if it was go to law school now or never go to go to law school.


Not really, its more like the people who arent competitive for the t14 always make it a point to tell everyone they wouldnt pay sticker at a t14.

User avatar
OGR3
Posts: 881
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:56 pm

Re: Is Law School Worth Sticker to YOU?

Postby OGR3 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:26 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
I swallowed enough of my pride attending a second banana state school on scholly. I'm entitled to a little prestige whoring :mrgreen:.


Yeah, because Pitt's pretty low on the college spectrum...




Return to “Law School FAQ”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest